Friday, January 8, 2010

Daddy's Guns Are Bad News for Kids

Chicago Boy, 12 years old.

The boy was arrested at Bethune Elementary School at 3:25 p.m. local time and was charged as a juvenile with unlawful use of a weapon, police were cited by MyFoxChicago.com as saying.

Students alerted the school’s dean that the boy had a handgun in his bag, according to the police report, MyFoxChicago.com reported.

Police said the dean found a 9mm Ruger handgun inside the boy’s backpack, MyFoxChicago.com reported. Three live .380 caliber rounds of ammunition, which did not match the Ruger handgun, were found in the boy’s pants pocket, police said according to the site.

Police are investigating the incident.


Griffin, Georgia, eighth-grader.

Students at Carver Road Middle School apparently saw the gun during a P.E. class and reported it to the resource officer, according to school officials.

The student was isolated while school administrators found the unloaded .25-caliber gun and a clip in the student's book bag. School officials reported the incident to the Spalding County Sheriff's Department.


Alhambra, California high-school student.

A California school is on lockdown Wednesday afternoon after a dog found a gun in a student's backpack and on him, local radio station KPCC reported.

Police arrested the Mark Keppel High School junior and are searching all the classrooms the student attended, as well as talking to his friends. They are also at his home in Monterey Park, Calif.

The radio station reports that the school district contacted a local canine company to do a random search.


This is the gun culture in America today, or I should say this is just a slice of it. These three "anecdotal" stories are among the scores of such reports that make the news every single day. Is this what the lawful gun owners who support NRA policies and fight tooth and nail to eliminate gun control laws say they have no responsibility for?

Is this the "freedom" the gun enthusiasts are always talking about? While ensuring that they'll have the means to fight tyranny in 21st century America, normal people cannot send their kids to school without worrying about guns.

Or should we just keep increasing the number of guns, making sure everyone can protect themselves from all the lethal threats, as long as we send our kids to do the Eddie Eagle training?

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.

13 comments:

  1. There was a time in this country where you could bring a gun to school for show and tell and no one thought anything of it. After all, a gun was just another tool. No one got shot either.

    That's because parents actually raised their children and the gun controllers had yet to infest our schools and declare themselves more knowledgeable than parents.

    Today, now that the gun controllers have been given carte-blanche access to our schools, they've convinced our children that guns are magical talismans of evil. Forbidden fruits on very high branches. And that type of attitude towards an object has always made for an unhealthy relationship. The type of relationship that made these children sneak the gun out of the house rather than ask their parents for permission.

    So these 3 incidents are not the product of gun culture, but the product of anti-gun culture.

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  2. "So these 3 incidents are not the product of gun culture, but the product of anti-gun culture."

    This cannot be said any better. But I am curious MikeB, what in any of the three news stories point to any of these guns being obtained from lawful gun owning parents?

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  3. "There was a time in this country where you could bring a gun to school for show and tell and no one thought anything of it. "

    Actually, this is a myth. An urban legend. But let's say, for now, it's true. We used to do a lot of stupid things in schools. For example, female students were strongly discouraged from taking math and science courses--all the while encouraging them to take home ec and sewing classes.

    We also used to teach a lot of things we knew were false. For example, generations grew up believing Washington actually threw a silver dollar across the Delaware or that the Civil war was about states rights. We used to teach Creationism in schools and much of what was taught in health classes were, in fact, old wives tales.

    --JadeGold

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  4. "Actually, this is a myth. An urban legend."

    Uh, no it is not. I know first hand that as late as 1992 you could still have shotguns in your vehicles at the school that I went to. I know this because my friends and I would often go pheasant hunting before and after school. It was not uncommon at all to talk about guns with the teachers and even bring them in to show them off.

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  5. Actually, this is a myth. An urban legend.

    Again, anything to backup your BS claims. Typical of you Jadegold.

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  6. "Actually, this is a myth. An urban legend. But let's say, for now, it's true. We used to do a lot of stupid things in schools."

    Jade, you are so full of it. Not only is this not a myth or urban legend, it is fact and I have seen it done.

    My freshman year of high school, a student disassembled a Government Issue 1911 pistol in class. I took the trucks off a skateboard for my presentation.

    The rifle racks in the pickup truck windows in school parking lots had rifles and shotguns in a lot of them. In 9th and 10th grade, I was issued a 1903 Springfield Rifle in JROTC--on school grounds. Student officers had 1911 hanguns on lanyards issued to them as did the color guard that patrolled at high school football games. Our school had a rifle range were we competed with 22lr rifles. I qualified Marksman with Small Bore Rifle during 4th period one day in 9th grade. We also had a rifle team that visited and hosted other school teams in competition.
    When I was in Junior High, all the boys had a Buck knife on their belt--it was just the thing then. I have carried a knife every day with me since I received one when I was nine years old and continue to today at age 44.

    I graduated public school in 1983 in South Florida. Fistfights were common but real violence was unheard of. No one would even think of using a knife or a gun on a student even though they had access. It is people that have changed, not the access to guns.

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  7. Scores of these stories per day? I really doubt that. 2 score would be 40, 40 x 365 = 14,600 per year -- the numbers not that high in any case. You did find 3 in one day, but can you find 37 more? No, because on an average day there are 0, not 3. I watch closely and I would say out of the tens of thousands of schools in the US this day was an anomaly of huge proportions.

    I would actually say that Daddy's who don't keep their guns responsibly secured are bad news for gun owners, but this is more of an educational issue than a legal one. In any case, however, none of these students hurt anyone.

    In terms of living in such paranoia of a criminal event that happens rarely vs. keeping in mind the catastrophic changes in government that history tells us happen everywhere eventually ...

    I'm guessing that none of the Jews nazi's loaded on cattle cars for Dachau were thinking, "well -- our community couldn't defend itself, but at least there were no school shootings this year!"

    And then there were African American rifle clubs in our own country, walking their neighborhoods with shotguns knowing the KKK were out there in large numbers wanting to kill them or their family members for daring to demand equal rights; I don't think they were thinking, "I'd gladly hand my family over to the KKK if I thought it would make mass murderers slightly less murderous -- even though the greatest mass murders in history, including the greatest school massacre in US history, were NOT committed with guns."

    Yeah. Still against gun control/still for civilian gun ownership. I just wish anti-gunners would start loving children more than they hate guns and allow for legal civilian carry in schools. That would actually save lives rather than just sacrifice more children on the altar of political correctness.

    But thanks for playing ...

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  8. "Actually, this is a myth. An urban legend."

    Sorry Jade, but it's true.

    This zero-tolerance nonsense is a recent invention. Kids were able to bring guns to school for all sorts of reasons: show and tell, hunting after school, etc.

    The only mandate was that they be put away during class. Usually locked in a locker or kept in your car.

    "We used to do a lot of stupid things in schools."

    And we still do.

    Good obfuscation though, Jade.

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  9. JadeGold "But let's say, for now, it's true. We used to do a lot of stupid things in schools. For example, female students were strongly discouraged from taking math and science courses--all the while encouraging them to take home ec and sewing classes."

    A good example of a bogus argument. With hindsight, we know that female students were harmed by the policy above. But if a gun was used for "show and tell" in the same time period, no harm has been shown.

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  10. Leave poor Jade alone. Gun control loons are used to just making crap up as they go. We shouldn't confuse him with facts.

    On second thought though, he tends to shut up when you ask him for proof of his nonsense.

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  11. No one ever said gun availability was the only factor. Only you pro-gun guys say that when you try to put words in the mouth of the gun control folks.

    Years ago guns were brought to schools in certain places without problems. Today that's generally not possible, due to a number of factors. People have changed, there are more of them, whatever. What was OK a few decades ago may not be OK today.

    As FWM mentioned, none of these three stories mentioned that it was the "dad's gun." I like to make stuff like that up for fun.I like to make logical guesses as to where the guns come from. Is that a problem? Where do you think kids usually get guns from that they bring to school?

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  12. It's an urban myth.

    The gunloons will claim they took a gun into school for show-and-tell everyday for the few years they attended school--but they're simply making things up.

    It just didn't happen.

    --JadeGold

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  13. Jade. Poor confused Jade. When he makes an unfounded statement and is presented with testimony to the contrary, he has no recourse but cry "liar liar pants on fire."

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