Thursday, October 14, 2010

Older Folks and Guns

I realize it's mean of me but I'm posting this video to embarrass and shame the gun owners who watch it.  Please notice the first eight seconds of the action.  With gun handling habits like that how long do you think it'll be before this poor lady becomes her own worst enemy?

At the one-minute mark we see a good close-up of the condition of Willie Biggs' gun, rust and all. Isn't that dangerous? Isn't that how guns blow up in people's faces? I'm assuming the working parts of the gun are in the same condition as the barrel and front sight.



What's your opinion?  My point is, although many older people live in fear, guns are not always the best solution.  For many they're the last thing they need.

Please leave a comment.

12 comments:

  1. "I realize it's mean of me but I'm posting this video to embarrass and shame the gun owners who watch it."

    Oh yes, I am so ashamed and embarrassed. You got me. I'm going to cry and gnash my teeth now.

    "At the one-minute mark we see a good close-up of the condition of Willie Biggs' gun, rust and all. Isn't that dangerous? Isn't that how guns blow up in people's faces?"

    I would be more worried about the condition of his rear sight than a little surface rust.

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  2. With gun handling habits like that how long do you think it'll be before this poor lady becomes her own worst enemy?

    She's done pretty well in her first 75 years. I think she'll be all right.

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  3. So, while she was violating rule 3 (finger on trigger) she was not violating (as far as we can tell) any of the other rules. Generally, two or more have to be broken at once in order to pose a danger to others. Not to excuse her handling it that way, mind you. Just a point of order.

    And we don't know whether she was asked to hold that gun that way for the camera (either by the reporter, or the camera man). In either case, you are correct that she did indeed violate rule 3.

    Is that what the purpose of this post was, to get one of us to admit that she was violating one of the cardinal rules of gun safety? There, you are succesful.

    Like RuffRidr, I don't think she'll do too badly, considering she's probably forgot more about handling guns safely in her 75 years than you and Laci and Guy ever knew to begin with.

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  4. I don't exactly love guns. But it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Older folks have a right to defend themselves in their own homes.

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  5. Old people have many of the problems associated with gunloons.

    In my interactions with gunloons, I am surprised at how many are on prescription medications. Many of these medications will make them dizzy and have warnings against operating machinery or making important decisions.

    Similarly, many gunloons and old people aren't in the best physical shape. Eyesight often deteriorates with age. Equally important is the fact many elderly and gunloons simply don't have the muscularity necessary to adequately train a gun on what they intend to shoot.

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  6. Ahh, yes, another personal anecdote from Jade masquerading as a fact. With such irrefutable proof backing him up, I guess I have no choice but to agree with that as a group us gun owners are just drugged out, overweight and incompetent. No wonder you guys are winning: http://www.wrn.com/2010/10/county-judge-rules-concealed-carry-ban-unconstitutional/ (thanks to Sebastian for bringing that to my attention).

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  7. Colin, Over the last 20 years I haven't had much interaction with gun owners, like Jadegold has, but I'd bet he's right that many of them are on medications that don't mix well with operating machinery or using guns safely. Isn't that true of the U.S. in general that many people take medications, that the pharmaceutical companies have many people duped.

    And wouldn't you agree that older people are prone to debilitating eye sight and other physical impairments that would make safe gun handling more difficult.

    Why do you disagree with Jadegold so vehemently when he says pretty reasonable stuff. When he makes humorous assertions that are more hyperbole I can understand your reaction, although in those cases you usually just lack a sense of humor, but in this comment there was nothing like that.

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  8. I'm a pretty jovial guy, Mike, but I didn't realize that this was intended as a humorous blog, nor do I find Jade's comments particularly amusing. Due to their very nature guns are serious business, deadly serious you may say. I don't joke around about restricting peoples' Constitutionally protected rights either. I also don't take kindly to people passive-aggressively insulting me, as I'm neither fat, drugged out, socially inept, or mentally incompetent, which are all anecdotal or flat out bogus assertions that Jade has made in the past. His inane "gunloon" term in particular is annoying, doesn't add anything to the discussion and is just plain insulting. Maybe we could take him seriously if he tried to engage in adult conversation like the rest of us. Referring to his comments as reasonable (just reread the comment in this thread and see how reasonable that looks to you), doesn't lend credence to your arguments, Mike.

    As for the seniors, to use Jade's methodology, I wouldn't describe most that I know as drugged out, but I would imagine that some do fall into that unfortunate category. However, neither of the two examples in that video looked to be weak, infirm or mentally unfit to own a gun. I was particularly surprised with how steady the woman's grasp on her revolver was, even if she did violate one of the four rules (notice later that she didn't put her finger on the trigger when handling the semi-auto, however, so she obviously corrected her mistake).

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  9. "Why do you disagree with Jadegold so vehemently when he says pretty reasonable stuff?"

    WTF??

    We'll let you know the next time Guy says something reasonable, since most of what spews from his mouth/keyboard isn't.

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  10. "Why do you disagree with Jadegold so vehemently when he says pretty reasonable stuff. "
    I'd have to see an instance of Jadewimp doing so before anyone could answer that.

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  11. Colin, You're a serious guy, I can respect that. And I can imagine it's sometimes difficult to look past Jadegolds style of sarcasm, etc. But the message is the same as mine. Gun availibility is a problem and something should be done.

    I believe guns in the home are bad news, not just where domestic abuse and distracted teens and other children are present, but also where the gun owners are growing elderly. That's really the point of my post. Jadegold added the non-elderly gun owners who take medication, which I remind you no one says is the majority.

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  12. No, Jade used the term "many," not "some," "a few" or a "small percent" in his comparison between old people on meds and gun owners. That's not humorous, it's offensive. And as usual he didn't back it up with any facts, just a personal anecdote.

    Mike, advocating removing someone's Constitutionally protected rights just because they're getting older is a new low for you. Regardless, good luck getting that done, since people over the age of 55 outvote the rest of us by a margin of at least 2 to 1.

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