He belongs in jail.Via commenter BantheNRA, we find a planned rally by NJ gunloons to celebrate Aitken's whiteness and gunloonery has been called off by Aitken:
I think the DA brought up a great point--he wasn't willing to testify in court when his own freedom was on the line, but he's happy to talk to the wingnuts.
If you talk to lawyers they'll tell you this generally means they know they haven't a legal leg to stand on. In fact, any lawyer worth his or her salt will tell a client who does have a legitimate case to shut up and be quiet in the public eye.
This is Brian speaking. I don't think anyone wants this rally to happen more than I do but I have to pull my support from it. In doing so I will ask my lawyer Evan Nappen not to make any comments or to attend. My family will not be attending, and we are asking Dennis to honor our request as well. I understand your intentions are good but as the old proverb goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and this could do more harm than good for me. While I sympathize the need for legal reform I can't build a soapbox with my name on it from people whom I do not know to preach their views which I am not aware of, and may not sanction. We are canceling the order for bumper stickers, t shirts and signage for the event. I wish the best for you and your organization.You are prohibited from using and/or benefiting in any way from my name. No person, group or organization may use Brian Aitken's name or make any reference to, of, or about Brian Aitken from this moment forward without the express written permission of Brian Aitken.
Always Correct; it's a gift.
So, by proving that you were correct in your previous claim, you admit that he does have a legitimate case. Does that mean you agree that he isn't actually a criminal, or that you think NJ's laws are unconstitutional?
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I have to apologize for commenting in the wrong post. I didn't see the earlier post.
ReplyDeleteBut have you seen his facebook page? Looks like a Klan rally with all the extremist views and whiteness.
Fortunately, NJ has strong laws, and a tough as nails AG, Paula Dow. She stopped a lawsuit by the gun lobby to overturn the progressive One Gun a Month bill, and also stopped the availability of Military grade rifles from the so called civilian marksmanship group to be shipped directly to ones home. And as a bonus, she recently added some military style assault rifles to our AWB, which had all the gunloons in an uproar since they had to return them to point of purchase.
Gunloons are such silly little people.....almost like pets with their toys. *almost*....lol....
Wow, BantheNRA, welcome aboard.
ReplyDeleteI guess the gun crowd is going to need another poster boy.
Justice is coming for the long-suffering people of New Jersey (and New York and Maryland among others). Enjoy your little victories while they last, because soon enough all you'll have for consolation is your bitter condescension and unfounded arrogance, BantheNRA.
ReplyDeleteAnd I say "unfounded arrogance" because it's obvious that you don't have a clue what you're talking about when you put fingers to keyboard (I'm glad you linked to that article so I could see your inane ramblings up close), BantheNRA. "Vest busting hollow points?" Are you kidding me? High velocity FULL METAL JACKET bullets penetrate bullet resistant vests, while hollow points by their very design deposit their energy quickly upon impact, thus making it much less likely that they will have sufficient KE to penetrate the remaining Kevlar layers. I'd tell you to get a clue, but I realize that a progressive like yourself is unable to let facts stand in the way of a good opinion.
ReplyDeletemikeb: Racism within the gun lobby is so in your face. I mean, look at McDonald. Otis was a black man. His face was not plastered all over the place. A few photo's here and there, but nothing really special right?
ReplyDeleteWell, you get this whitebread gun smuggler who gets arrest for owning vest busting ammo, military grade magazines, and hidden firearms in his car, and whammo, the gunloon extremists (all white btw....) plaster his face everywhere.
What the hell is up with that?
This is more proof that so-called *gun rights* is just code word for wanting to regress back to the days of institutionalized racism!!
This is why the NRA MUST be labeled as a hate group, and disbanded immediately.
I am still trying to get my head around how using the fifth amendment and not wanting a political rally in your name confirms the need to be imprisoned.
ReplyDeleteColin: ***less likely that they will have sufficient KE to penetrate the remaining Kevlar layers***
ReplyDeleteseems like *less likely that they will have sufficient KE * is not a definitive *they will have sufficient KE*. So my point about vest busting ammo stands.
Now go run along and play somewhere else gunloon.....
BantheNRA, you really need to pull your head out of your fourth point of contact. A hollow point RIFLE bullet will penetrate a police officer's vest, while hollow point PISTOL bullets below .44 caliber (what the vests are rated for) will not. Since he had pistols below .44 caliber, they were hardly vest-busting now were they? As I said in my last post, you and your kind love to sensationalize the argument with vague and/or unsupported "facts" such as what you continue to spew out.
ReplyDeleteBTW, using words like "whitebread" to describe someone clearly identifies you as a racist as well as someone incapable of constructing a rational, adult argument. Thanks for playing, better luck next time.
"...and also stopped the availability of Military grade rifles from the so called civilian marksmanship group to be shipped directly to ones home."
ReplyDeleteWow, she stopped a century old program from delivering pre-WW2 technology to honest citizens. What a crime fighting hero.
"This is why the NRA MUST be labeled as a hate group, and disbanded immediately."
ReplyDeleteWho is this, Jade Gold's mom? Where did you recruit this nut from Mike, Brady Bunch? Why are anti-freedom people so full of hate?
"This is why the NRA MUST be labeled as a hate group, and disbanded immediately."
ReplyDeletePer the 1st Amendment, even a distasteful, ACTUAL hate group like the KKK is free to assemble and say whatever the heck they want, as long as they don't break any laws. Apparently BantheNRA doesn't want to stop at running roughshod over the 2nd Amendment, he'd like to throw the 1st under the bus as well. Glad to see all the principles of enlightened progressivism on display here. His kind displaying their ignorance certainly makes our work much easier.
Mike, you might want to inform bantheNRA that you don't use use the word "ban" around here.
ReplyDeleteTo clairify; hollow points decrease the penatrating power of any bullet, but increase the tissue damage. It is what they do. To quote he who is never wrong... "you can't have it both ways"
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I don't care about your latest tempest in a teapot and I'm not going to waste time reading it. It's the always correct thing that gets me. You weren't correct about FWM's AK-47 post. (You were perhaps thinking it was one of the infamous kits that make an AK-47 fully automatic?)
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised anybody even takes the time to read your pompous posts. Nobody is always correct. If such a thing did exist, it would be a curse, not a gift. If a person was truly correct all the time, the last thing they would ever do is say so. Not to mention that ridiculous case you made that gun owners should not be allowed to imbibe alcohol. You're a harm to the cause.
Mike, get rid of this clown.
Ouch, even your own side doesn't want you, Guy. Being a troll is a lonely occupation I guess.
ReplyDeleteFlying Junior, I like Jadegold's sense of humor very much which is what I think that "always correct" bit is. If it rubs you the wrong way, fine, but it's no biggie. The points he goes on to make about the gun debate are in near-perfect alignment with my own.
ReplyDeleteColin, I like BantheNRA's strength of opinion and turn of phrase? Your attempt to debate the hollow-points vs. the full metal jackets seems a bit silly to me. And your accusing him of being the racist when that's what he's accusing the NRA of, is even sillier.
BantheNRA, Please don't tell Colin to go away. It's my blog and I don't even do that to the worst of them, and Colin is certainly not that.
I have no intention of leaving because Colin needs a refill for his baby bottle. He can try and try to talk circles about vest busting/flesh pulverizing ammo all he wants.
ReplyDeleteThe point is, this Aitken guy is a gun smuggler, supported by guntard extremists. Fortunately, Aitken turned his back on the gun lobby.
Checkmate!!
BantheNRA: No, the point is that the "crime" he committed isn't a crime in most states of the Union, nor should it be. Who gives a crap if someone has a couple of unloaded pistols locked in the trunk of their car? It's not hurting anyone. Whenever I travel anywhere here in PA, I usually have two or three LOADED pistols (the number fluctuates depending on whether or not my wife is with me). It's just one more piece of evidence proving that NJ is a cesspool.
ReplyDeleteMike: BantheNRA calls the NRA racist because Aitken is white, and then turns around and points out that Otis McDonald is black. Claiming some unfavorable ratio of publicity between the two doesn't make it a fact, nor would it make the NRA racist even if proven. Calling someone "whitebread," OTOH is clearly a racial epithet, and is why I called HIM a racist. I don't care what color he is; I have never used such a word, nor have I used the "n" word in reference to a black person.
As for the hollow point debate, I was merely pointing out BantheNRA's lack of knowledge regarding the subject that he's so opinionated about. He was also incorrect in calling the NRA racist (Charlton Heston marched with MLK in support of the civil rights movement), as well as calling for their disbandment (hence the 1A reference I made). It's hard to have a battle of wits with someone who's obviously out of ammunition.
BantheNRA:
ReplyDelete1.NRA is racist.
2.Poor knowledge of guns and gun laws.
3.Wishing death on gun owners.
Yup, sounds like a Jade Gold sock puppet to me.
Colin: I think Mommy needs to burp you. Say what you want about the non existent gun laws throughout the country, fact remains, and the point is, he broke NJ State Law!! You guntards fail to miss this point. All you cowards tried to rally and praise his whiteness, then he wised up and dumped you extremists like the trash you are. *You* need to get *Your* facts straight. Note me.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what your hang up is with ammo, and yet you foolishly stand your ground with uncertainty with regards to vest smashing ammo actually being able to kill and maim.
Heston was a good man back in the day, but unfortunately get a screw loose and started supporting some out dated, silly, immature, idiotic notion of *from my cold dead hands*.
Guntards are always livin' in the past. Illusions of grandeur through silly revolution, or wanna gunslingers who long for the day when the streets ran crimson red with blood in the Wild West.
BantheNRA: I was taught in my Law of Land Warfare classes never to fire on an unarmed noncombatant. In this case, your lack of subject matter knowledge, poor grammatical skills, incoherent arguments and rampant name-calling prove that you ran out of mental ammo long ago. With that in mind, I'm accepting your intellectual surrender, and will no longer be engaging (or even acknowledging) you. Good day to you, sir.
ReplyDeleteColin: My lack of subject matter? lol....what does a guntard like you know about the gun laws of my State? All of a sudden some Aryan Youth gets busted smuggling contraband, and gets prosecuted and convicted according the strong gun laws of NJ, and yet somehow, I don't know what I'm talking about.....
ReplyDeleteGo back to your silly little weekend warrior games....
I have a prediction:
ReplyDeleteNot only will Aitken be released from prison and/or pardoned, draconian gun laws in that backwards, repressive state will start tumbling down.
FatWhiteMan: Show me where I wished *death* on gun owners.
ReplyDeleteBantheNRA:
ReplyDelete1.NRA is racist.
2.Poor knowledge of guns and gun laws.
3.Wishing death on gun owners.
1 and 2 for sure.
No. 3? No. Gun owners are pretty good at proving Darwinism.
"But if a gun owner decides to off himself, with his/her own gun. I don't see the harm. Just means one less gun owner, and that is a good thing. How we arrive at that point as a society makes no difference. With regards to eliminate gun kookery from society, it's the end that counts. Never ever the means."
ReplyDeleteFWM, BantheNRA can be differentiated from Jadegold by his use of the word "guntard." Jade says "gunloon."
ReplyDeleteColin, Your defense of Aitkin is what, the "bad laws be damned" idea. If a gun owners does that is he not a criminal and shouldn't he accept the punishment if caught?
Mike, from the facts I have seen on the case so far, it looks like he was improperly convicted in the first place. I guess we'll have to see what Chris Christie has to say about that in the next couple of weeks. But beyond that, yes I do believe that it's a bad, unconstitutional law that unfairly criminalizes gun owners. Tell me what actual moral crime against his fellow man he committed by having those guns in his car, moving exemption or not. Do you really think there's nothing wrong with laws that assume someone is in criminal possession of a firearm unless they can prove an "exemption?" That kind of goes against our whole "innocent until proven guilty" system now, doesn't it? NJ is the prime example of the Brady Bunch utopia--they acknowledge that a total gun ban is out of the question, so they just harass and criminalize gun owners until they are all prohibited persons or are unwilling to risk their freedom/ fortunes just to own a gun.
ReplyDeleteFAtWhiteMan: Seems your paranoia is affecting your eyes. I fall to see how the ends always justifies the means to be wishing death to gun owners. So a guntard or guntubby offs him/herself who cares? That's the point. There is no wishing death to gun owners. But thanks for the tip.
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