Interesting how local law enforcement both supervise the gun shows and aren't seeing a big problem. I am sort of surprised that they only have someone on to speak from the pro gun rights side of the issue. Usually its the other way around.
Yeah, and it's also interesting how you take one man's opinion and extend that to "law enforcement." I think that's called metonymy. Maybe Greg can tell us.
"Yeah, and it's also interesting how you take one man's opinion and extend that to "law enforcement."
Considering that the man giving the statement is the chief law enforcement officer in the county, it might be considered a rather informed opinion. Especially with an accompanying clip of people having their firearms inspected before being allowed to enter. In fact, wouldn't a Sheriff or Chief rightfully be considered to be able to speak for law enforcement in their jurisdiction?
Yeah, I suppose they could. But, I don't remember you pointing that out when I post police chiefs favoring gun control. In those cases they're political hacks, right?
I brought up some unprofessional behavior of that particular Chief. Others brought up that issue. You do bring up a good point, every level of governmental leadership in law enforcement has a political component of some sort for good or ill. A Chief is expected to at the very least not directly contradict the city government. Sheriffs are more directly accountable to the voters since they are elected by the voters. So which is it then? In your post about Chief Mccarthy you supported the leader as a competent spokesperson paradigm. Yet here you seem to leaning more towards the political hack image who is voicing an ill informed personal opinion.
Then our only disagreement seems to be how we define "at large". In these cases, I tend to go with it speaking to the situation within their jurisdiction. For example, this Sheriff can rightfully and competently speak to the situation in his county. The clip you supplied that they spoke to more than one law enforcement agency and they all gave the same report, that gun shows aren't a problem in regards to being a conduit for prohibited persons to acquire firearms. My only beef with the report is that while they had someone from the pro gun rights side of the issue, they didn't include someone from the pro gun control side. How do you define law enforcement at large?
Notice the sheriff doesn't take your side, Mikeb? I go to both. The shops have regular inventory, while the shows give me the chance to find odd things. I never see any bargains, though. The prices are often higher than the shops.
Interesting how local law enforcement both supervise the gun shows and aren't seeing a big problem. I am sort of surprised that they only have someone on to speak from the pro gun rights side of the issue. Usually its the other way around.
ReplyDeleteYeah, and it's also interesting how you take one man's opinion and extend that to "law enforcement." I think that's called metonymy. Maybe Greg can tell us.
Delete"Yeah, and it's also interesting how you take one man's opinion and extend that to "law enforcement."
DeleteConsidering that the man giving the statement is the chief law enforcement officer in the county, it might be considered a rather informed opinion. Especially with an accompanying clip of people having their firearms inspected before being allowed to enter.
In fact, wouldn't a Sheriff or Chief rightfully be considered to be able to speak for law enforcement in their jurisdiction?
Yeah, I suppose they could. But, I don't remember you pointing that out when I post police chiefs favoring gun control. In those cases they're political hacks, right?
DeleteI brought up some unprofessional behavior of that particular Chief. Others brought up that issue. You do bring up a good point, every level of governmental leadership in law enforcement has a political component of some sort for good or ill. A Chief is expected to at the very least not directly contradict the city government. Sheriffs are more directly accountable to the voters since they are elected by the voters.
DeleteSo which is it then? In your post about Chief Mccarthy you supported the leader as a competent spokesperson paradigm. Yet here you seem to leaning more towards the political hack image who is voicing an ill informed personal opinion.
I wasn't "leaning more towards the political hack image," I was simply saying one man's opinion cannot be transferred to "law enforcement" at large.
DeleteThen our only disagreement seems to be how we define "at large". In these cases, I tend to go with it speaking to the situation within their jurisdiction. For example, this Sheriff can rightfully and competently speak to the situation in his county. The clip you supplied that they spoke to more than one law enforcement agency and they all gave the same report, that gun shows aren't a problem in regards to being a conduit for prohibited persons to acquire firearms. My only beef with the report is that while they had someone from the pro gun rights side of the issue, they didn't include someone from the pro gun control side.
DeleteHow do you define law enforcement at large?
Law enforcement at large means your average cop. Or we could say the majority opinion of cops.
DeleteNotice the sheriff doesn't take your side, Mikeb? I go to both. The shops have regular inventory, while the shows give me the chance to find odd things. I never see any bargains, though. The prices are often higher than the shops.
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