Fox News Denver has the report.
A disgruntled employee shot and killed the owners of a Boulder flooring store in an apparent dispute over sales commissions, police said Tuesday.
Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner said officers found the bodies of 50-year-old Robert Montgomery, 40-year-old Sean Griffin and 41-year-old Staci Griffin inside Boulder Stove & Flooring on Monday after witnesses heard gunshots in a back office.
Beckner said the Griffins, who lived in Longmont, suffered multiple gunshot wounds, while Montgomery had just one. A coroner will officially rule whether Montgomery killed himself.
The video says he bought the gun ten days beforehand and practiced. Too bad he didn't live in Washington D.C. where the authorities have some kind of chance at spotting a nut like this and preventing him from getting his hands on a gun. In Colorado, where guns are a way of life, that's not possible.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
MikeB: “Too bad he didn't live in Washington D.C. where the authorities have some kind of chance at spotting a nut like this and preventing him from getting his hands on a gun.”
ReplyDeletePlease explain how. What kind of mind reading devices do they have in DC that they don’t have in CO? Or would they hack into his computer and read his journal that expressed displeasure with his boss- which would be grounds for immediate denial of a gun purchase in DC?
MikeB: “Too bad he didn't live in Washington D.C. where the authorities have some kind of chance at spotting a nut like this and preventing him from getting his hands on a gun.”
ReplyDeleteYou mean like how they detected and prevented the Holocaust museum shooting? Or maybe because DC has stopped so many shootings and all?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/washington-dc-shooting-mu_n_519381.html
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/shooting-se-dc-officers-hurt-chase-033010
Please explain how.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty easy if you think about it.
Many people act impulsively; we see this all the time, they buy stuff they really can't afford or things they really don't need.
Similarly, people may say or do things impulsively--especially teenagers and those who have personality disorders. In this case, we had a guy who apparently got po'd with his employers and went out and got a gun and killed them and himself. That's why waiting periods work--nobody needs a gun so badly that they must absolutely, positively have it rifgt away--except, of course, those who intend to commit crimes like this.
BTW, the NRA understands this. After all, they booked their annual convention in a location where attendees are barred from carrying weapons.
--JadeGold
With all the hoops one must jump through in D.C., there's a better chance of spotting a problem case, than in Colorado. I wouldn't take mind reading skills to see that some of these guys are unfit.
ReplyDeleteBut, FWM, they won't stop all of 'em. In all fairness, though, even you must admit that we wouldn't know about any that were stopped. That's the whole idea, that we never see them on CNN.
Jadegold: “That's why waiting periods work--nobody needs a gun so badly that they must absolutely, positively have it rifgt away--except, of course, those who intend to commit crimes like this.”
ReplyDeleteBut the shooter waited a Brady-approved 10 days between purchasing his gun and killing the store owners. And those who suddenly need a gun when they didn’t have a need for it before- need it absolutely, positively, right away.
Jadegold: “BTW, the NRA understands this. After all, they booked their annual convention in a location where attendees are barred from carrying weapons.”
Woah, woah… I thought you have been telling us all along that the NRA leadership is radical and out of touch with its reasonable members? I can’t figure you out.
MikeB: “In all fairness, though, even you must admit that we wouldn't know about any that were stopped.”
ReplyDeleteWell, we’d see a reduced crime rate in areas that employed these measures versus areas that don’t.
Truth be told, I think this is an example of easy access to guns leading to two murders. Where you and I differ is that you think we can screen out guys like this from everyone else. The guy who loses it and just “snaps” in a suicidal rage is the hardest to pick out- it could be any one of us. Street thugs with a rap sheet are much easier to screen out. Where we also differ is that I feel this guy wanted those two dead and could have done it with a crowbar as well (albeit more difficult- but still probable). The way to stop a guy like this from getting a gun is to stop EVERYBODY from getting a gun, including those two store owners if they wished to protect themselves from this guy.
Jade,
ReplyDeleteI thought the NRA was all powerful? Why didn't they just wave a political wand and make North Carolina change the law so that concealed carry would be allowed?
You do realize that the law and the fact that most NRA members attending the annual meeting are law-abiding is why there was no CCW don't you? You don't really believe that the NRA would not want CCW at their conventions, right?
Gosh, FWM, if the attendees were so God-fearin', law-abidin' and white---why did the NRA put up metal detectors at the entrances?
ReplyDelete--JadeGold
To keep the twelve protesters out, duh.
ReplyDelete" Gosh, FWM, if the attendees were so God-fearin', law-abidin' and white---why did the NRA put up metal detectors at the entrances?
ReplyDelete--JadeGold"
They didn't. Just like they didn't do that at the last two conventions. Just like they didn't post no ccw at the last two conventions.
why did the NRA put up metal detectors at the entrances?
ReplyDeleteI just came back from it. They didn't put up metal detectors at the entrances.
Then again you consistently get your facts wrong, so it's no surprise you're full of it yet again.
If the shooter lived in DC, he probably would have never bought a gun to begin with. Their onerous purchasing process was designed to discourage people from exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
ReplyDeleteI believe you guys about the metal detectors, but on the NRA web site they said there would be.
ReplyDeleteAztecRed, What are you saying, that the onerous D.C. gun laws would have prevented this?
"I believe you guys about the metal detectors, but on the NRA web site they said there would be."
ReplyDeleteThe convention was held in two locations. The Convention Center housed the main convention, show, meeting and seminars. There were no metal detectors to get into the convention.
The second location, Time Warner Arena which is an arena located 4 blocks away from the convention center, was used for the speaking engagements because none of the ballrooms in the convention center were even close to being large enough to accommodate the program on Friday or Saturday. The Time Warner Arena did nave magnetometers (just wands) that were used to screen each attendee. This was done by the facility and not by the NRA. The Arena will use the same screening if you attend a basketball game or other event at the arena. North Carolina law specifies that the arena is closed to CCW. The NRA had no say in that decision nor the decision to have magnetometers in use.
FWM is correct. The NRA Convention (I.E. the convention center itself) did not have metal detectors.
ReplyDeleteThen again Jade has lied about previous conventions and been called out by yours truly, so this is nothing new for him.
For the sake of correcting Jade's idiotic lies yet again.
ReplyDeleteThe NRA DID NOT put up metal detectors anywhere.