Tuesday, August 7, 2012

How Mass Shootings are dealt with in the USA

From the Daily Kos, which I am quoting in total since it is too accurate as to how these things are dealt with in the States:
Here we go again. Another mass shooting, this time a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
Here's what's going to happen:
1. The police and the emergency respondents will do their absolute best to investigate the crime and assist the wounded. That's actually happening right now. The truth is, our police, although they have their issues, are generally pretty good at what they do, and our EMTs and emergency care facilities are excellent.
2. There will be substantial media attention, the extent of which will depend on the number of people who were shot. If enough people are shot, a special mournful dirge will be written (as it was with the Aurora shootings)
3. In a day or so, various politicians will state that "our hearts and prayers are with the victims and their families."
4. Many people will find themselves without medical insurance to cover their injuries, and will have to beg the community to pay for their bills, or the medical providers to reduce or waive them.
5. Some freakin' jackass like Allen West will claim that if he had been there packing heat, he could have shot the perpetrator dead. And there will be "other blame the victims for being unarmed"
6. The gun industry will benefit as sales of whatever weapon was used here will go up. The more people who are killed the better the sales will be.
7. People like me who criticize the ready availability of firearms capable of this type of mass killings will be criticized as "politicizing" the event.
8. The whole thing will be forgotten by the general public (but certainly not the victims) in two weeks, max.
9. Another massacre will occur. Repeat steps 1 through 8.

10 comments:

  1. He left out the part where some liberal ghouls will attempt to use the victims in a failed attempt for political gain and relevance. In fact, they always have legislation written, ready to go but it was "that tragic event that made us realize we need this".

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    1. And he left out the part about how weak-minded yahoos have been advocating disarmament of good citizens and surrender to thugs for a while now. When will we see these control freaks take responsibility? I'd rather have a nation of people who stand up to thugs than a nation of sheep.

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  2. Don't forget the TITular head of My Ahmergherd It'sa GUN!!!!! getting all whiney va-jay-jay about being asked, "why is it the NYPD selling all of it's spent brass to those evil reloaders rather than the scrap metal company....."

    http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-nyc-mayor-blows-up-at-nyc-reporter-over-gun-control-question-20120806,0,5294109.story

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  3. Sadly, that's the way it generally goes, Laci. Don't forget the step where the NRA remains silent on the shooting... except to send donation requests right afterward.

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    1. my guess is that if the NRA *did* respond to the shootings you would have a problem with that as well. Also, the NRA always sends out donation requests..Nothing new and not newsworthy (but don't let that stop you from making a big deal over it.)

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  4. Too True! Laci, too true!

    We have goofs like Greg who wrote:
    And he left out the part about how weak-minded yahoos have been advocating disarmament of good citizens and surrender to thugs for a while now.

    Yup, if by weak-minded, you mean the fact-driven, reality-based folks who are capable of critical thinking (I know, I know, you try but you just can't manage that, but do keep trying, and maybe someday....) That objective, fact-based reality - as I wrote about today on Penigma - is that there have been 60 additional mass shootings since Jared Loughner killed all those people on January 8, 2011. And those are on top of the other 3+ murder/suicides, single suicides, careless accidental shootings (especially of children).

    And then there is the arming of former felons and other criminals that the NRA and gun zombies advocate; they commit subsequent crimes at an alarming rate. And the domestic abusers - their homicides in states like WI, since the gun laws became more permissive, are responsible for their significant increase in gun homicides and especially in non-fatal shootings.

    When will we see these control freaks take responsibility? I'd rather have a nation of people who stand up to thugs than a nation of sheep.

    Yeah? When are you lot going to take responsibility for the bloody carnage of letting a LOT of the wrong people, including criminals and dangerously mentally ill get their hands on legal assualt rifles so they can do all those mass shootings?

    We don't have that kind of carnage under may issue. I'll take responsibility for how well may issue works. Are you going to take responsibility for how incredibly bloody badly shall issue and your NRA abomination gun laws operate? Are YOU going to take responsibility for all those many many many failures of your gun culture? NO, you don't get to pick and choose the successes and try to pawn off the rest -- they're YOUR FAILURES.

    And those 'standing up to thugs' crap? What a load of shit.
    In the shoot first states, there has been a big increase in hommicides, but not a drop in crime. A lot of people who should't be shot are being brutally blasted away by vigilantes who did not need to do so.

    In case you hadn't noticed, the crime rate is down - except for the gun violence in the red states where the conservative changes to the laws have been a disaster.

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  5. "We don't have that kind of carnage under may issue. I'll take responsibility for how well may issue works."

    You heard her. She is responsible for this:

    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/07/sick-obese-gun-owner-shoots-his-kids-to.html

    Sorry, May Issue is a failure. We will not let our rights be dictated by bureaucrats. May issue is finished, move along.....

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  6. Dog Gone, I call bullshit. I gave you the chance to address the facts and critical thinking. Look here:

    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/08/wild-assertions-with-no-evidence.html

    You didn't answer. You use "fact" and "critical thinking" as though they are meaningless words that you can toss around whenever you want. Well, sorry, Virginia, there isn't a Santa Claus, no matter how much you wish things to be otherwise.

    If you go here:

    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/08/mother-jones-interactive-map-of-mass.html

    you'll see on the cited map that these mass shootings cluster in heavily populated areas--they are strongly correlated by population. What shows no correlation whatsoever is the gun laws of the state in question. Texas and Florida have their share, but so does New York, and California leads by a wide margin.

    In both of those articles and comment sections, we see that control freaks time and time again use hype to offer the illusion of safety. But the truth is that your side can't address the facts.

    If you wish, you now have another chance to address the facts and logic that I've presented. But leave aside the irrelevant information, and deal with the actual points that I raised, rather than wasting time on passing general judgements.

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  7. Step 8 is why the gun-rights movement is eventually doomed to failure. The cumulative numbers year in and year out will overcome all the lies and distortions about the meaning of freedom.

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    1. Lies and distortions? It's easy to say that, but much harder to answer the specific facts that I've presented.

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