Even with that qualification, don't you think it's dangerous and stupid to associate guns and alcohol in this way. Wouldn't the folks who "have a couple" after using the firing range be less fit going home with their guns? Of course they would. What's wrong with these people?A Georgia couple is building a $3.5 million indoor shooting range that will feature a full bar, serving alcohol to its patrons.So is this the start of a potentially dangerous new business model where intoxicated firearm enthusiasts will literally be shooting from the hip? Well, not exactly.Brown sent WSB-TV a statement clarifying that once someone has ordered a drink in the lounge, they will not be permitted to enter the firing range:"Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day," the statement reads.Still, Brown and her husband are not naive about their unique sales pitch. The rest of the statement goes on to add, "Georgia Law allows persons with gun permits to bring their weapon into a restaurant that serves alcohol, we are taking it even a step further."
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
"What's wrong with these people?"
ReplyDelete2nd Amendnesia--They forget that gunz don't kill peoplez, that drunken assholez wit teh gunz kill people.
"What's wrong with these people?"
DeleteAnd thats a valid question for me as well. That type of gun range, I don't think anyway, would be allowed in Texas. I don't believe in guns+alcohol is acceptable in any stretch either.
Their policy, while commendable inside and on their property may offer protections there doesn't work well once the person leaves the place.
Different states have different rules and laws on such things but here in Texas its this one way only. I can carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol but I CAN NOT touch one drop. In Texas there is a tolerable level of blood alcohol when driving but if you have a gun with you or on you the acceptable level is 0.0000000%. Any higher and you go directly to jail, no passing go or collecting $200.00 on the way. And if you have a CHL, you could loose that for life.
A place like that here means you can carry your guns in, shoot them and leave. The moment you drink anything, you had better lock those guns up and leave them there. You can bet the cops would be watching and checking everyone that left there for any hint of a drink.
I don't drink, and don't tolerate it. I am not opposed to those that want to, its your business. But it is my business if you do and are around me or mine and try to drive or be armed. I will take your keys and/or gun and take you home and you will not get them back until I see that your fit to have them. IF your around me. Or I will call the cops on you and you can deal with them.
I may be "pro gun" but I do draw the line in certain cases.
We're certainly on the same page with this one, Texas.
DeleteBooze-teh stupid and guns. What the hell - it's the Mercun way!
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i'll take the booze but will pass on the gun-play, play? like they play with their peepees!
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Webber, you feel free to remain unarmed. Given your comments, it's a good choice for you.
DeleteTypical insane left-wing gun control extremism, painting everyone that has a drink or two or three as a drunken gun-wielding desperado.
ReplyDeleteorlin sellers
Nobody said that. What we said is drinking and guns don't go together.
DeleteMikeb, this is what was said, and I quote: "drunken assholez wit teh gunz kill people."
DeleteSo, to correct your statement: "Nobody said that", yes indeed, somebody did say that.
Billions of people drink and don't get drunk, but it is typical of gun control freaks and organizations like MADD to paint anyone who drinks as a threat to society. That is a myth and fallacy.
orlin sellers
The last state to repeal prohibition was Mississippi (1966). It is possible that some of the older persons who frequent this blog may remember a time when alcohol was considered to present such a danger to the general welfare and safety of society that it's proliferation and procurement was indeed sanctioned against by the law. I believe that in some of your lifetimes (anyone under the age of 25 perhaps?) the use, as well as the proliferation for such use, of small arms and other man portable deadly weapons, in the hands of the ordinary citizen may indeed be viewed in such light, and likely be subject to prohibitive legal statutes.
DeleteAnd a Chi-Com like yourself, E.N., will be in charge--not in my lifetime. But do please announce your position to the world. Run for office. Write your own blog. You'll see how much support there is in this country for your nonsense.
DeleteProhibition was repealed because it was the one amendment to the Constitution that took away freedom, rather than guaranteeing it. We won't allow any more such stupidity.
Anonymous, He did not say everyone, which is what you accused him of saying. That makes you the one with truth-telling difficulty.
DeleteI said 'everyone' (and qualified it) who has a drink, or two or three. And it was you who said guns and alcohol don't mix. So, a drink of alcohol means you think everyone who has alcohol and owns a gun is dangerous. You are merely trying to weasel out of your comment and democommies blather.
Deleteorlin sellers
I never weasel. I "think everyone who has alcohol and owns a gun is dangerous."
DeleteYes.
Mikeb, you must be continually scared and depressed with such a view of humanity. I have both, and I'm careful with each. I don't touch the one while enjoying the other. Intelligence isn't as hard as you make it out to be.
DeleteMikeb, since you appear to be copying whatever shows up over at The Truth About Guns, you should read the discussion. Did you note how this is a club for rich guys who will leave their guns at the range before they go to drink? You're just trying to drum up controversy where nothing important exists.
ReplyDeleteI told you this the other day, you're getting to be quite the sarcastic son of a bitch. Knock it off.
DeleteI get very little from TTAG. And when I do I credit it as such.
Knock off what, exactly? I call things as I see them.
DeleteDon't let this computer-trained redneck (no offense intended to coal-miners or their unions), who clings desperately to the backwards notion of individual liberty (the one who refers to himself as "Greg Camp") to push you around. I believe that most people who frequent your blog are sufficiently informed to see through such a simian mentality.
DeleteI don't refer to myself as Greg Camp. That's my name. What's yours, E.N.? Chairman Mao? Only a tyrant talks about liberty the way that you do. A tyrant or a sheep. So which are you?
DeleteIf I told you who I was, which believe me I won't, you will probably find yourself awake much later than 11 pm (the time based on the fact that YOU live in Arkansas)
DeleteAs you are in the habit of pontificating oneself with the Orwellian reference, think of me like this
DeleteI am room 101. I am the black helicopter. I am the monster of your childhood, under your bed. Fear Me. gregie.
Funny, E.N. Does this mean that you're the mall ninja of gun blog lore? Mikeb, look at the people you associate with.
DeleteAnd just when you thought anti-gun crusaders couldn't get any nuttier......... Talk about bastardizing one's own cause!
DeleteThat's some unintentionally funny shit right there. That's quite an imagination you have there Laci, errr.. I mean E.N.
DeleteDo I have to explain to you people the concept of sarcasm? Anyway, before I make the mistake of arguing with an idiot, I must again remind you that I AM NOT the one who has adorned himself with the moniker "Laci". E.N. not "Laci". Does the trained gibbon (you) understand the distinction? I doubt it. If you manage to achieve such progress, I may reward you with a banana.
DeleteE.N., when you act like other fools and don't identify yourself, you get lumped in with the rest. By the way, given how often people here are charged with racism, you may wish to take care in referring to other commentors as apes, since such language has been a term of racial disparagement in the past.
DeleteOK E.N., you're not Laci. Do you work with him, or share a residence? It's just weird that some (not all) of your posts have come from the same IP address that he has used in the past. Odd that.
DeleteIt is possible "Laci" may have previously resided in the same area as I do. I have never even met him. I believe that he currently resides in the UK. Also I use different operating systems when commenting (XP and Ubuntu)
DeleteAs I am not all that computer-literate, I have no explanation for the common IP addresses.
I think "E.N." is busted.
Deleteroot_//CCP/PARTY_member.PRC_("E.N.")/: .......Or the person making such claims (who presumably disagrees with me)is lying (sorry if you are in fact telling the truth as you see it, but as I am not this "Laci" and have never met him, and certainly do not share the same computer, there isn't many other explanations). I am not some ultra-liberal barrister (lawyer) from Britain. If I was in fact a sock puppet, then who and why would choose the name E.N.? Anyway it is probably a better idea to actually argue against what I say, rather than to make some contrived ad-hominem attack, that I am a sock puppet.
DeleteRead what I say, you might learn something.
E.N., I don't really care who you are. I've read what you have to say, and it's a defense of tyranny from start to finish. In your view, we're the property of the state. In your view, the government has rights, and we must beg for some small portion. I'll have none of it.
Delete"E.N." seems to know a lot about Laci even though Laci has not been around since E.N. started posting...
DeleteI really hope "E.N." does not truly believe the garbage about people belonging to the State and is just trolling with his ridiculous posts. If these are his true beliefs, then I can say I would have to start thinking about limiting the right to vote of some people. E.N.'s posted views of government have no place in the running of the United States of America.
Nothing really new here. Many gun ranges tolerate alcohol use; It's not hard to find a gun range where drinking is happening in the parking lot.
ReplyDeleteAdditionally, "gun clubs" have often had lounges adjacent to the firing range.
It's not a new thing: young'uns like to have a few pops and then shoot at things just like they saw in the movies.
Jadegold, what the hell are you talking about? I go to gun ranges frequently. I've never seen alcohol anywhere near one. I've never seen anyone drinking alcohol at one. Typically, they're located in state parkland or as a part of a gun shop. Perhaps you'd like to support your claim with some actual evidence--citing the ranges in question, providing pictures or links to their websites, and so forth?
DeleteSOME gun ranges may tolerate alcohol use, however society has to tolerate Jadegold's cultural stereotyping of gun owners as uneducated drunken rednecks. Such closed-mindedness is saddening, but not at all surprising.
DeleteJadegold said "many." To me that doesn't add up to "stereotyping. Maybe you're a little paranoid, or maybe he hits home with you.
DeleteNo, Mikeb, many means a large number. I'm still waiting for him to support his wild assertion. I'm also interested in your assessment of E.N.'s nuttiness.
DeleteGreggy apparently is waering his 'See-No-Evil' goggles at the gun range.
DeleteThe fact is virtually all gun ranges have parking lots where drinking is taking place. In fact, some of the more unkempt ranges don't bother to do a daily sweepout of the empty beer cans and pint bottles.
I was a county facility about a month ago and some good ol' boys were actually tailgating with some beers. Of course, the real danger was in the range office where you you got muzzle covered about 100 times.
Well Mike, Jade went from "many" to "virtually all". Is that stereotyping in your opinion?
DeleteGreen Goblin, which range specifically do you mean? Given your attitude about guns, I have to wonder what you were doing there in the first place, if you really went to a range, but surely you can provide the name of the facility and the name of the range officer. I'd like to check out your claim.
Delete"Many", "virtually all", "most", these are all terms used here by JadyBoy and MikeyBoy. They have to. They have no leg to stand on and they know it. Notice how there is never and statistics that they reference? It's all gut feelings and common sense with these two idiots.
Delete"Don't let this computer-trained redneck"
ReplyDeleteJust a note EN, We southern folk wear that "Redneck" term as a badge of honor. So if your trying to insult us with that term, you missed. And you cant call a Redneck a name, heard that from several democrats.
Redneck stands for liberty, freedom, honor, trust, tolerance, compassionate, giving, hard working, appreciative and thankful.
Thank you for calling me a Redneck!
"(no offense intended to coal-miners or their unions),"
I noticed that the coal miners union and others are not supporting any Democrat this time around.
"who clings desperately to the backwards notion of individual liberty"
And thats what made this country great and powerful. If thats backwards then I am all for throwing this country in full reverse. Thats also being a Conservative.
Mike, I am not sure how I did that big space under my comment. Can you edit that out? Sorry about that.
DeleteTexas Colt carry, your comments are worthy of all the space you care to give them. Like you, I see the term "redneck" as a label of honor.
DeleteI prefer hillbilly and Neanderthal when I want to insult.
DeleteMany of my ancestors were hillfolk, and I find nothing insulting about that. They wanted to make their own way in the world and preferred not to have interferring types like you meddling in their business. The Neanderthals were probably as intelligent as we are and were better suited to the cold climate of the ice age in Europe. They died out from a shift in the climate, not from a lack of brains.
DeleteIn other words, when you want to understand the world, you need to look farther than a Geico commerical and a Hollywood sitcom, il Signore Pulcinella.
Actually it has most recently been proven that the Neanderthal, (the species which Greg Camp appears to belong to) although having a slightly higher cubic volume, had anatomical features indicate a deficit in certain areas of the brain (the prefrontal cortex for example) involved in creativity, emotional stability, language, and socialization. While the distribution of Neanderthal remains dictate that they where, in fact relatively solitary creatures, forming small family units, the Cro-Magnon (early homo-sapiens) formed larger tribal groups, controlling territory, farming land and forming society and proto-governments, which have allowed our species to rise above the rest of the animal kingdom.
DeleteAlso, it is likely that Neanderthals where relatively anti-social (as the latest brain models indicate) and where killed of by homo-sapiens. This wouldn't be very difficult, as the Neanderthal wasn't very creative and used crude spears as weapons, (they also didn't have any real tools, instead picking up rocks as they traveled from place to place, which they used as semi-effective knives) whereas homo-sapiens created the atlatl and later the bow and arrow, which they likely used to kill of the poor primitive Neanderthal.
Interestingly enough this once extinct species seems to be making a comeback in modern America, in the form of Redneck-Gun owners (Such as Greg Camp).
Oy, since we're wandering far afield, E.N., would you care to provide a source for this? The fact that you used the word "proven" in relation to what you said suggests that you don't know what you're talking about. There may be suggestive evidence that goes one way or another, but the matter can hardly be settled.
DeleteMike, Neanderthal, I have been called that from friends and foe and I find it hardly insulting. In fact I find it somewhat complimentary given any of the circumstances I have been in. The foes feared to engage me because of my stature (I am a tall guy and back in the day, well built) so they would utter that term and leave. Problem solved. Friends called me that every time I could pick them up and toss them on a horse, in a pickup or what have you. It was all in fun and in a 'thank you' kind of way.
ReplyDeleteHillbilly, relates the same as Redneck. Same thing as far as I can see.
It would amount to the same thing as a black man calling a white man a "cracker" as the white man would simply shrug and think or say,,,,, "SO??".
I know it was meant as an insult but it just simply missed.
And Mike, you simply cant call a Redneck a name! And that term means that it is extremely hard to insult us with name calling. We just find it amusing.
But if it works for you, then by all means, fire away!
All right, all right. I didn't really want to insult you anyway, especially since that unequivocal declaration you made about guns and alcohol.
DeleteA shooting range that serves alcohol? What could possibly go wrong? Can they also issue the gun owners bandannas to blindfold them? Maybe serve them some Nyquil? Ooh, how about a fog machine to cloud up the range? None of those things are illegal, either, and make just as much sense to me.
ReplyDeleteOregonian, you really missed the bit about how no one will be allowed back into the shooting area once the person enters the bar, I see. This is a gimmick, nothing more.
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