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The Coalition to Stop Gun Ownership has been whining for years about good citizens having guns, and look at how much has been accomplished. Oh, right, they've done nothing. That's because enough Americans believe in freedom and basic rights.Ms. Haas, the CSGO blocked me from following them, so I can't do what you ask. That says everything that I need to know about said organization's belief in freedom.
Since when has killing people been a basic right?
Leslie Parsley, thanks for reminding us of the gun grabbers' fallacy. A gun, by itself, kills no one. A person has to make the decision about what that gun will do. Murder is not a basic right, and we who believe in gun rights aren't here advocating killing innocent people. But self-defense is a right, and a gun makes that right practical. Guns can also be used in ways that don't involve killing anyone.You're buying into a false dichotomy. Gun ownership isn't black and white. It's wrong to say that if I have a gun, I'm going to kill some innocent person. There are lots of responsible gun owners in this country. We constitute the vast majority of people with firearms. Broaden your view, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Greg said, "the CSGO blocked me from following them,"Who runs that, Pooch, DG, and Democommie?orlin sellers
Without the government there would be NO rights. How can you, a mere subject of the State, who was born in a government hospital, raised in government schools, benefited from government utilities and regulation, has traveled to and from ones occupation on government roads, and who's life, liberty, and property where protected from threats, foreign and domestic by a government military and police force, be so brazenly arrogant to challenge the very institution that has protected, and indeed endowed us with liberty, property and above all, life. The twenty-first century American is very much a creation of the state, as without police officers, firefighters, social workers, and soldiers, there would be no quality of life, no liberty and no property worth defending. If any ancestor of yours had not received welfare, in some form, it is possible that you would not be here today. Has not the food with which we are nourished by (the safety of which is guaranteed by the State)traveled to your dinner table on government roads? Would you be alive today if it where not for a collective right for the State (not the mere subject) to keep and bear arms, in the form of a professional military and police force? We must at all times consider ourselves a creation of the State, which has (directly or indirectly) endowed the ordinary subject, with their very lives, property and the freedoms that we take for granted.Therefore you, a mere person has no reasonable claim to any "right" which manifestly infringes upon the authority of the State.The State however does bear obligations to it's subjects.Such as the right to civilian disarmament.The such a right is necessitated, considering the social harm caused by the possession and use of small arms by civilians, and the preamble of the current U.S. constitution which states that it is the responsibility of government to "ensure domestic Tranquility" and "provide for the common defense" and "promote the general welfare", that a Fundamental Right to Civilian Disarmament,could be established domestically, and later, internationally. In order for the government to achieve such goals, the government must take reasonable measures to ensure that state actors have a monopoly on the use of small arms, which requires the general prohibition of the possession of small arms (as well as other deadly devices) by mere civilians.
E.N., you bloody ChiCom, I am not a mere subject of the state. Yes, I was born in a city hospital--not a Federal institution. I went to private schools all the way through graduate school.But the more important point here is that there is no "right to civilian disarmament." That's what a tyrant calls for--the right of the subject to submit. Go back to China or North Korea or Cold War Albania or wherever the hell you're from. Your masters will love you there.
Greg, Your hatred of gun control organizations is weird. If they were as inconsequential as you claim, why are you so passionate about them?
Because rights have to be defended. The call for control is seductive. There's nothing supernaturally strange about my opposition to groups that want to take away my rights.
EN, thank you for providing that picture of your brain-washed mind. The government indoctrination was a complete success.orlin sellers
E.N. Thank you for showing us that you know how to copy and paste. The overwhelming majority of people in the U.S. reject your basic premise that the State is above all and defines what rights the people have.What has happened in the U.S. is that some people are willing to infringe on other people's rights for selfish reasons. Please do not confuse selfish infringement of rights with your notion that the State is above all.