arma virumque cano (et alia)
What else would you expect from a Jesuit Marxist?orlin sellers
Do you think he's talking about the right to own a gun? I don't.And as everyone knows, the Catholic Church is the final arbiter of what our human rights are. And just so there's no doubt, that' sarcasm, Mikeb.
Yeah, that's what I said, right Kurt, that "the Catholic Church is the final arbiter of what our human rights are."The point is, only gun-rights fanatics like you think owning an inanimate object (gun) is a basic human right.
The point is . . . And the assertion that the Pope's campaign against economic inequality is unrelated to guns makes that "point" how, exactly?But don't get me wrong--I'm darned impressed with your prowess at knocking down the strawman argument that he was talking about guns (an argument advanced by which gun rights advocate, I wonder?).
Mike,According to Laci's latest, you must now shut up about Gun control or you will be in violation of the First Amendment since you tried to cite the pope in support of your position.
According to Laci's latest, you must now shut up about Gun control or you will be in violation of the First Amendment since you tried to cite the pope in support of your position.Damn--you're good, Anon.
Make em live by their own rules, Kurt. Alinsky for the goose ...
"And the assertion that the Pope's campaign against economic inequality is unrelated to guns makes that "point" how, exactly?"The quote I provided was about Human Rights. Read the first two words.
The quote I provided was about Human Rights. Read the first two words.Oh, I beg your pardon. How silly of me to fail to realize that the only significant part of the quote was the first two words, and that the other 90.4% of the sentence was just meaningless filler the Pope babbled on about for no reason at all, and thus should be ignored.
Yes, the first two words set the scene. He was talking about "human rights," which you silly gun nuts claim include gun rights. The lack of mention of gun rights, although not conclusive, seems to indicate that the Pope doesn't agree with you.
His entire point was that "unfair economic structures" and "huge [income] inequalities" are also human rights violations--how anyone would work guns into that discussion is beyond me.I suspect that he cares nothing for gun rights (just as I care nothing about his opinions), but it's just silly to use that quote as "evidence" for his indifference (or more likely, outright hostility) to gun rights. . . . the Pope doesn't agree with you.Neither do any of these idiots. Your side is welcome to all of them, as far as I'm concerned.
"how anyone would work guns into that discussion is beyond me." "that discussion" being human rights.I know you think getting the last word in is some kind of victory in and of itself, so go ahead, Kurt. Have the last word.
And many more for him I can only hope. He certainly seems to be stirring things up in the church with what many consider to be controversial stances. He also doesn't seem to be much for putting on airs.
Happy Birthday Francisco!So far our (Mrs. Junior and I) favorite quotation has been his comment on creationism vs. evolution. "God is not a magician who can wave a magic wand."
Mine is when he said "Who am I to judge the gays."
Right, who is he to judge any sinner.orlin seller
Yes, sinner. According to the church, we are all sinners. Would you want the birthday boy judging hookers?orlin sellers
I have to wonder why he refused to open Vatican records for investigating sexual abuse allegations against the church.