22-year-old Adan Mascorro, of Redwood, Texas was cleaning his .22-caliber handgun when the gun unintentionally discharged. The bullet struck Adan in the hand and continued on and struck his friend, Bernardo Samangio, who was standing nearby. Bernardo was hit in the chest. The pair drove to the medical center in San Marcos. Bernardo needed to be transported by helicopter to Brackenridge Hospital in Austin. He remains in the hospital but is hoping to be released sometime this week.Young Adam Mascorro will be back in action very quickly. In gun friendly Texas, they don't even mess with your 2nd Amendment rights if you kill someone by accident.
The fact is guys like this are a menace to society. They're a danger to themselves and others. They should pay for their sins by suffering the MikeB is King Rule formerly known as the one-strike-you're-out rule.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
@King Mikeb, do you also feel that anyone that someone owns a swimming pool should lose their right to own one if someone drowns in it?
ReplyDeleteOr that anyone that is involved in a fatal accident (intentional or not) should lose their driving privileges for life?
Oh, how about someone that cusses into an open microphone, should they lose their free speech rights?
If someone ever gets caught with contraband, should they lose their rights against unreasonable searches and seizures for the rest of their life?
Yes, I know I included one privilege in there, driving, but I'm just wondering how you feel about the rest of our rights, if they should be stripped from people who accidentally or purposefully abuse them?
...Orygunner...
b b b b but you anti-gun nutters don't understand
ReplyDelete"22-year-old Adan Mascorro, of Redwood, Texas was cleaning his .22-caliber handgun when the gun unintentionally discharged. "
ReplyDeleteEvery single modern firearm comes with a manual that is also available from the manufacturer and online that clearly states to unload firearms before cleaning them. If it was an antique firearm then instructions and videos can also be found online. It's pretty simple though - if it's a revolver remove all the rounds, if it's a semi-auto remove the magazine and then clear the chamber. It's a one or two step process.
"The fact is guys like this are a menace to society. They're a danger to themselves and others. "
Ya. A harsh lifetime punishment of no guns will do far less to prevent future accidents than some safety training though.
22-year-old Jim Smith, of Somewhere, Blue State was driving his car when he unintentially lost control of the vehicle. The vehicle struck a tree, injuring Jim’s hand and his friend, Peter Jones, who was sitting in the passenger seat. Peter was hit in the chest by a tree branch. The pair were taken the local medical center in town. Peter needed to be transported by helicopter to Bigger Hospital in Bigger Town. He remains in the hospital but is hoping to be released sometime this week.
ReplyDeleteYoung Jim Smith will be back in action very quickly. In traffic friendly Blue State, they don’t even mess with your Not-in-the-Constitution (driving) rights if you kill someone by accident.
The fact is guys like this are a menace to society. They’re a danger to themselves and others. They should pay for their sins by suffering the CharlesT is King Rule formerly known as the one-strike-you’re-out rule.
MikeB,
I am having trouble seeing how these two stories are different. They both involve the irresponsible use of a tool that when used properly serves a very useful purpose
Dear Orygunner -
ReplyDelete"King Mikeb, do you also feel that anyone that someone owns a swimming pool should lose their right to own one if someone drowns in it?"
You can lose your shorts (everything you own) if someone drowns in your pool due to your negligence. I share this as someone who grew up with an inground pool that my parents put in as my 5th birthday present, and the tall fence we had to put around it was a necessary nuisance - because the pool was what is called 'an attractive nuisance'. I make the distinction between a drowning that is not due to negligence, and drowning that is preventable with common sense and common precautions.
An intentional fatal car accident is a homicide, and yes, you should lose your driving privileges for an extended duration for that (along with incarceration). Unintentional? That again would depend on the negligence and other circumstances involved, but yes, sometimes that is an appropriate outcome.
You make such a scatter pattern of points, and make them badly, that you should reconsider your underlying premise.
Couldn't Mascorro get off on that legendary Texas unwritten law, he 'needed shootin'?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I know, it's supposedly 'he needed killing' as a justifiable homicide defense, but lets adapt here.
"b b b b but you anti-gun nutters don't understand"
ReplyDeleteIs that an anti-gun stutter?
It's kind of obvious that guns are dangerous. The argument here is about how necessary they are for self-defense. About whether gun control, which may attempt to ban certain types of weapons or otherwise control access is working or...
ReplyDeleteWhen you continually post about accidents and their fatal or non-fatal consequences, you are pretty much wasting our time. Lose their gun rights for life! Are you fucking kidding??? One death and you're out? I don't think so. But, I guess you're still the king. Sweetly ensconced in Europe, safe from the availability of firearms in the good ole U.S.A., yet somehow, you amazingly still care about the rest of us.
It's kind of a dead issue. The U.S. will always have the right to bear arms. And that's probably a good thing.
22-year-old Jim Smith, of Somewhere, Blue State was driving his car when he unintentially lost control of the vehicle. The vehicle struck a tree, injuring Jim’s hand and his friend, Peter Jones, who was sitting in the passenger seat. Peter was hit in the chest by a tree branch. The pair were taken the local medical center in town. Peter needed to be transported by helicopter to Bigger Hospital in Bigger Town. He remains in the hospital but is hoping to be released sometime this week.
ReplyDeleteYoung Jim Smith will be back in action very quickly. In traffic friendly Blue State, they don’t even mess with your Not-in-the-Constitution (driving) rights if you kill someone by accident.
The fact is guys like this are a menace to society. They’re a danger to themselves and others. They should pay for their sins by suffering the CharlesT is King Rule formerly known as the one-strike-you’re-out rule.
MikeB,
I am having trouble seeing how these two stories are different. They both involve the irresponsible use of an tool that when used properly serves a very useful purpose
Charles T., Thanks for resending your comment using your name. The problem with what you said is one is an accident (supposedly) and the other is negligence. For negligence, you lose your rights for life, by regal decree.
ReplyDeleteFlying Junior, what happened to you? I thought you were on my side, or am I confusing you with someone else?
@Dog Gone, to clarify my point, King Mikeb is declaring that if you abuse a right, or are negligent with it, that you should lose the legal ability to freely exercise that right.
ReplyDelete@Mikeb, how about it? Do you carry your decree to abuse of other rights as well? Maybe here's a better example: If someone verbally threatens the safety of another, should they lose their right of free speech? Or if they cut their finger with a paring knife, should they lose their right to legally own knives for life?
...Orygunner...
I'm still behind you Mike. I guess I just don't see eye to eye on every point.
ReplyDeleteA guy like you needs to believe that he has all the answers; i.e. the man who would be king. You speak with authority. I don't pretend to have any grasp or idea whatsoever about what to do regarding out-of-control gun violence in the U.S. I just see small insights. I form judgments. I like your ideas about registering and tracking weapons. I think we need to reign in the N.R.A. so that such a vast quantity of guns are not manufactured every year. On a world-wide scale, I would like to see the U.S. stop exporting so many weapons to Israel, Egypt and all of our other "customers" who receive so-called "foreign aid." If it comes in the form of weaponry, it only serves to aggrandize the wealth of the politicians, investors and weapons makers or simply shore up our so-called national interests.
"For negligence, you lose your rights for life, by regal decree.
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"Do you carry your decree to abuse of other rights as well?"
Hmm, how about wilful negligence? Since this would cover all gun owners regardless of their history of safe handling, it's only fair the antis have a similar restriction on them.
Let's see... one false statement, whether a "slip of the tongue" or blatant lie, and they lose the right to comment on all gun issues.
Seems kind of harsh, since that would prohibit "rapid-fire" and "weapons of war" for semiautos, "high-capacity" for standard magazines, and most certainly "no legitimate sporting use" and "you don't need (x)", to say the least.
It is certainly fair though.
Thanks Flying Junior for the clarification. A lot of what I say is tongue-in-cheek. I really don't mean to speak with authority, since I recognize that I don't have any. But, when pressed I can come up with some concrete ideas that I believe WOULD help. But, believe me, I'm well aware that we're just talking hypotheticals here. I'm not a policy maker and I don't have an exaggerated opinion of my little blog's influence.
ReplyDeleteI've said it from the beginning. This is about entertainment more than anything else.
Guy and Orygunner, I don't think you can compare the right to bear arms to any other right. Isn't it unique?
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