Friday, March 4, 2011

Arizonans Want More Gun Control

In an incredibly surprising result, the MAIG sponsored poll came up with the good news. If this keeps up, I'm gonna have to stop bashing Arizona.

A poll commissioned by the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns says that sizable majorities of Arizona voters support several specific gun-control measures, similar to findings in four other states that also were surveyed.

Among the findings, 83 percent of the 600 registered voters polled in Arizona favor a law requiring all gun buyers to pass a background check.

Among gun-owners, the number was 75 percent in Arizona, the group reported.
What do you think? Did they use trick questions to get the results they wanted? That's what the gun defenders always say, isn't it? Why is it so difficult to believe people want common sense restrictions? Why is it so difficult to accept that even gun onwers, in large part, agree with this?

Please leave a comment.

11 comments:

  1. MAIG has no validity. It's a one man witch hunt and they have been repudiated as biased and unscrupulous in their research and in their data. Relying on MAIG for gun information is like relying on Marlboro and Winston for tobacco data.

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  2. It's not surprising at all, from conversations I've had with average, everyday people, including gun owners. And these results compare nicely with other polls.

    But no matter how statistically significant the findings, no matter if published in scientific articles, no matter how random the sampling is, pro-gun extremists will always claim them to be biased, insignificant, or failing to prove anything.

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  3. "But no matter how statistically significant the findings, no matter if published in scientific articles, no matter how random the sampling is, the overwhelming grass-roots support of pro-gun legislation will always prove them to be biased, insignificant, and failing to be remotely accurate."

    There, fixed it for you. Now it makes sense.

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  4. One has to understand gunloonery represents a very small fraction of the US population. Even among those who own guns.

    There is a very small and exceedingly vocal group of gunloons who like to portray themselves as representative of tens or hundreds of millions--but its simply a myth.

    Even in the NRA. The NRA's 3M members aren't a monolith; in fact, it's pretty easy to demonstrate thar fewer than 100K of NRA members actually support the NRA's extremists and terroristic agenda.

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  5. @Well, if people were properly educated and knew the facts that gun control doesn't actually have any consistent or significant effects on violent crime, I think the poll results would change significantly.

    ...Orygunner...

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  6. Only poll that matters. 341 members of the House are Pro Gun or at least resistant to new gun control legislation. 104 members for gun control or at least receptive to new legislation.

    47 states have carry in some form, 38 are shall issue and that is going to go up.


    Take all the biased evidence you wish, claim your victories as a peoples movement, but when the People voted, they vote pro gun. The reality is when the questions are phrased fairly, gun control loses every poll.

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  7. Do you know what I would like to see, take any random segment of the population from this country, have them watch a well-moderated debate about gun control, where equal time is given to each side of the issue, then give them a poll with questions decided upon by representatives from each side.

    Once the facts come out that gun control simply doesn't work as advertised, and the unintended consequences are realized, I would expect at LEAST 2/3 would not only vote AGAINST further gun control, but a majority would agree that most all current laws should be repealed.

    Just as ignorance is needed for Tyranny to rule, real knowledge of the issue is the enemy of gun control.

    ...Orygunner...

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  8. Self correction

    431 House members are progun or at least not receptive to new anti gun legislation. Fat finger syndrome. Sorry for the error.


    104 House members are Anti gun or at least receptive to new gun control legislation.

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  9. One has to understand anti-gun loonery represents a very small fraction of the US population.

    There is a very small and exceedingly vocal group of anti-gun loons who like to portray themselves as representative of tens or hundreds of millions--but its simply a myth.

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  10. P, I'm gonna take issue with just about everything you've said on this thread. It won't take long either.

    Your first comment is one of the worst comparisons we've ever had. You can't compare the MAIG which is ANTI-gun, for lack of a better and more accurate description, with Marlboro and Winston, which are PRO-smoking.

    In you bumbling attempt to prove bias, you got it completely backwards.

    Your other two comments were basically saying that a political vote has some relationship to the way the population thinks. Haven't we seen enough examples of political representatives voting along party lines or being influenced by powerful outside interests.

    The Supreme Court, for example is just slightly weighted towards the right, therefore you gun guys are in your ascendancy with such landmark decisions as Heller and McDonald. But the truth is those victories were by the slightest margin possible, one single vote. Had one of those old fogies died or retired and been replaced by Obama, there'd be a very different climate in the world of gun rights these days.

    The point is, although I agree any poll results sponsored by the MAIG, or the NRA for that matter, have to be taken with a grain of salt, as I alluded to in my post by calling it an "incredible surprise," I don't accept the idea that political votes are any better in getting to the true feelings of the people.

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