A longtime employee opened fire at a wood-processing company in central Switzerland on Wednesday, leaving three people dead, including the assailant, in the country's second multiple-fatality shooting in two months, police said.This post is in response to the comment left by Retired Mustang to Laci's post entitled "Breaking News--Another Swiss Mass Shooting"
Still, there have been several high-profile incidents over the years, including the killing of 14 people at a city council meeting in Zug, not far from Lucerne, in 2001. And in early January, a 33-year-old man killed three women and wounded two men in a southern Swiss village.
"Another" one? How many were there previously?
You see, this is one of the common pro-gun tricks, ask a seemingly legitimate question which implies that the person was lying or making things up.
As I often say, if these gun-rights folks really had a good argument they wouldn't have to resort to so many shabby tricks.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
NO, questions like that only show their ignorance.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, one has to go outside the US to find criticism of Swiss gun culture since US results are stacked by the pro-gun crowd praising the country's gun culture.
Also, a lot of the criticism is in French or German.
Most US citizens have a problem with understanding English as demonstrated by Orlin Sellars and Greg Camp.
George Bernard Shaw once said that Britain and America are two nations separated by a common language. Laci, you demonstrate this. Your attitude is one of a subject person. Mine is that of a citizen. It's no surprise that you babble incoherently and can't understand what I say.
DeleteMikeb, you see wicked motives behind every act of people on my side. If you'd lay aside your biases for a moment, your vision would be clearer.
ReplyDeleteWhat "wicked motives" are you talking about? Not that statement-like question that RM asked, surely.
DeleteYou ascribe wicked motives to everything my side says and does. I dislike psychoanalysis, so I'll refrain from speculating as to the reason.
DeleteSwitzerland has far fewer guns than the U.S. in private hands, and FAR stricter gun control regulation.
ReplyDeleteThey themselves have admitted in commissioning studies on the problem that there is a huge suicide with guns issue in that country, that the lethality and impulsive use of guns is a core part of the problem and that with fewer guns they would have fewer suicides.
Greg Campy just thinks he understands English (middle or modern); it hasn't helped him with using it for critical thinking purposes. Orlon fluff for brains is just a lost cause.
Dog Gone, here's a lesson in critical thinking for you: Assertion is not proof. You have said for over a year that I lack critical thinking skills. You have never shown any evidence to support your claim. Lesson number two: Repetition is not proof. For once, how about shocking everyone and offering some evidence?
DeleteAgain, Mike, you assign motives when you could simply ask. I ask questions to understand the subject. It does no good to argue a point only to learn my opponent and I are not really discussing the same thing. So, I asked how many other mass shootings there have been and, as a follow-on I asked for the definition of a mass shooting that we're using in this discussion. It really comes down to this: Is it our goal to communicate or is it our goal to merely exchange words and then walk away as each of us engages in self-congratulatory back patting?
ReplyDeleteLaci, a request for information does, indeed, show ignorance. Thus, I ask questions to cure my ignorance. I didn't know how many mass shootings there had been in Switzerland. Since you brought it up, it seemed reasonable that you might know. Likewise, I don't know how you are defining a mass shooting, so I asked.