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Is it taken for granted that Jose had a concealed carry permit? Florida is one of the easiest states to get one and no one seems to have batted an eye at the fact that he had a gun on his person.It started as a shoplifting incident inside the store on Veterans Memorial Parkway near Saxon Boulevard. A thief loaded up a cart of merchandise, and loss-prevention employees tried to stop him as he left the store, officials said.
Authorities said the shoplifter, identified as Eddie McKee, 42, knocked Ann Buongiorno to the ground as he ran out of the store.
Ann Buongiorno to the ground as he ran out of the store.
"I'm all still shaken up from all this," said Buongiorno. "I thought I was going to die. I was knocked down very hard, and I thought I got shot, and I was screaming at the top of my lungs."
An off-duty law enforcement officer saw McKee running for his car and ordered him to stop, but McKee fled.
Investigators said another man in the parking lot, who was identified as Jose Martinez, pulled out a gun and fired at least four shots at McKee. The back window of the car was shot out, and bullet holes were found in the trunk.
I say yes, he probably has a permit and like many other permit holders he was absolutely incapable of acting responsibly in a heated moment. Plus, the fact that it's not even mentioned by the authorities or the media means this is just another case in which it gets overlooked and doesn't become part of the statistics.
Lying gun-rights fanatics can keep telling us how few concealed carry guys break the law.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
The deeds of nefarious shoplifters who wreak havoc on our Nations malls is an chronic issue of dire importance. I experienced the carnage firsthand as the Field Operations Security Officer (and later industry consultant) for a three man Tactical response team charged with ensuring YOUR SAFETY, in the face of Cripps, Skinheads, EX-KGB Russian mob along with the other usual suspects for such a vile atrocity as shoplifting which ran rampant one of our nations most dangerous malls. Those heroic men and women who are entrusted with such a task, are selected from the best of the Security/Military/Paramilitary industry, and are trained intensively in the art of Ninjutsu, adapting the ancient techniques to suit the Kevlar body armor that worn daily, in anticipation of the next machinegun-weilding crackhead rampage unleashed upon your shopping spree. Wanabes like this guy can go and strap on some silly little civvie-legal toy and parade around, but if (and more likley when) you go bad, real professionals like me have to clean up the mess.
ReplyDeleteI say this (in anonymity do to the nature of my occupation) as someone who is entrusted to carry (when I was on Indoor Contingency "Mall" duty) an FN SCAR, two Glock 17s, a FN Five-Seven, and a MP5-Kutz (just in case) FOR YOUR SAFETY.
Most malls ban CCW by civvies anyway, and such a prohibition may extend to the parking structure in many cases, so the shooter may have been in violation of ordnance.
I know I shouldn't. The alarm bells are ringing so loudly in my head, warning me not to. There's even a voice screaming "don't feed the trolls!" But, I just can't stand it.
DeleteNinjutsu? The "best of the Security/Military/Paramilitary industry"? "In anticipation of the next machinegun-weilding crackhead rampage unleashed upon your shopping spree"? "an FN SCAR, two Glock 17s, a FN Five-Seven, and a MP5-Kutz (just in case)"?
Really?
I'm sorry, I'm throwing the BS flag on this one.
Me too, RM. I'm just glad Specop is on your side.
DeleteHe's not on our side. He's a troll, someone who's against everything. In addition, he's either Gecko45 or pretending to be.
DeleteDis be a perfect example of Y we y'all need open carry in all your Communist States that BAN you from exercising your rights! If peole where properly armed and everyone had an AK-47, a MAC10, and AT LEAST 2 Glock 20s then we wouldent have such silly things as criminalz now wood we?
ReplyDeleteHeya strawman
DeleteMikeb, we're not lying. Only a tiny number of carry license holders commit crimes. If you had read the whole article, you'd have seen that Martinez does indeed have a license, and he's been charged. You'd also have seen that Buongiorno's husband, who was on the scene, said that he and his wife were in danger from McKee.
ReplyDeleteSo we have one licensee who may have screwed up. You can't multiply one by your guesses and come up with proof. But if you'd at least do basic research before posting, you'd get more respect from me.
Okay, basic research again, Mike. Total number of concealed carry license holders who are convicted of crimes divided by the total number of concealed carry license holders. This will give you the percentage of them who commit crimes. Then, you could change the numerator to get other averages. Specifically, you change it to the total number who commit certain types of crimes. Until you're willing to do even that much, your arguments have no weight. Hey, you can't even be bothered to include the totality of the article you quote, which is okay...unless the total article includes confounding information. This one does.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe the numbers are reliable, the ones of concealed carry permit holders who commit crimes. No one is checking. And your side loves the bizarre results which such an unbelievably tiny percentage gives.
DeleteAh, I understand. Rather like some Labor and Delivery nurses who insist there are significantly more babies born on a full moon (not all of them do this). You can take birth records from around the country and compare them to phases of the moon and find no correlation...but they insist their impressions simply must be correct. "Well, there must be something wrong with those numbers" is pretty common. As is the refusal to design, run and be answerable for doing their own legitimate research.
DeleteYou say no one is checking, but this article identified the shooter here as having a carry license. Someone checked.
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