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EQUALITY, Ill. — A coroner in southern Illinois says a dropped gun fired a bullet that accidentally killed a 59-year-old woman in her home.
... And that's proof Jade has no idea that drop safeties exist.
Guy the fucking idiot says:"According to gunloons, this never, never happens..."No, Guy, what is said concerning guns being dropped is that modern guns are designed with prevention of this scenario in mind, so that when a modern firearm is dropped, it shouldn't fire. As usual, your reading comprehension is lacking.We don't know the age of the firearm.We don't know whether the husband or one of the friends actually fired the gun, then made up the story of a dropped gun, especially since no further investigation seems to be coming.
I'm sure most of you guys who comment here use that "drop safety" thingie, right?About the modern guns not firing when dropped, I notice you guys always include that little qualifier "shouldn't fire." Are you saying that ALL modern firearms have this built-in resistance to firing when dropped.I don't think so.
I can honestly tell you that every handgun I own has a drop safety.Also, every newly manufactured handgun that I know of comes standard with such safeties.
I chose my primary handgun because it not only has a drop safety, but also a firing pin block safety, designed to prevent discharge even if the entire top slide/barrel/firing pin is torn off the grip.
Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're not 100% infallible. OTOH, I am.But aside from the fact many gunloons like to claim that a dropped weapon never, never, ever discharges--this story points up the fact that many gunloons simply are incapable of exerting positive control over the firearms.
Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're not 100% infallible. Show me one mechanical device that is 100% infallible....It's laughable to hear a pathological liar claim he is infallible. Good one Jade / Guy.Every single one of my handguns is drop safe, as are the overwhelming majority of guns made today. Most of mine also have a firing pin block.
"I'm sure most of you guys who comment here use that "drop safety" thingie, right?"They do if they drop their gun and it was made sometime after the mid-eighties or so."About the modern guns not firing when dropped, I notice you guys always include that little qualifier "shouldn't fire.""Well, pardon us for being accurate in our wording. We'll get to work right away on being misleading or telling outright lies, like Guy does."Are you saying that ALL modern firearms have this built-in resistance to firing when dropped.[?]"There might be some manufacterers that don't. The guys along the Khyber pass probably don't build it into their guns. But if it is a modern, recognizable name like Ruger, Colt, Springfield Arms, Smith&Wesson, Glock, Walther, Remington, Winchester, Khar, or even Hi-Point, then yes. Can't find any info on Raven Jennings Bryco, or Lorcin Davis Cobra but who knows, even they might.Why is the addition of a safety designed to make the user less likely to be injured in the case of a dropped gun so unlikely in your mind?
Anonymous asked, "Why is the addition of a safety designed to make the user less likely to be injured in the case of a dropped gun so unlikely in your mind?"Well, the first clue is the frequency of reports in the news which presumably are only a tiny percentage of the times this happens.
So, you think the media is hiding all of the "other cases" of dropped guns going off and injuring/killing people?Or, alternatively, do you believe the media is ignoring those "other cases?"Lastly, you claim there is a frequency of these reports. Please elaborate. I don't recall there being that many, or have you been posting them on some other blog?
Anonymous, We've seen far more of these than we've seen of DGUs, you know, the things that happen millions of times each year.Hoe do you explain that?
"We've seen far more of these than we've seen of DGUs"You say that, but you haven't shown that. Where are all the "dropped gun going off" stories?Has there been more than two this year? The only other post on a dropped gun this year was this one:http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2010/06/target-practice-in-michigan.htmlHave you been posting them elsewhere, because I don't see them. Even if you have and I have missed them, do we know the facts about the case? Guns last a long time. Do we know the age of the weapon in question, and if it even had a drop safety?The DGU's are another matter. Suffice to say, I don't want to get into the comparison of one vs the other, because that wasn't the point. If you want to make it the point, do a post on DGU vs dropped guns, and your supposition that the media is ignoring, or under-reporting either or both.I'll respond to that there.
Anonymous, I guess you're right. Gun owners are dropping their guns all the time and they only rarely go off. Is that the idea?
I don't know. Does a dropped gun even make the news if no one is injured?Even if the gun is of modern design, and has been built to resist firing in the event of being dropped, that doesn't mean it's guaranteed it won't fire--it just means that it shouldn't. Cars with airbags are designed so that they deploy under certain circumstances. That doesn't mean they won't deploy under other circumstances--just that they shouldn't.I really don't get why you're all hung up on this. Are you looking for guarantees?