Sunday, November 14, 2010

Plainfield NJ Shooting reports:

For the second time in 24 hours, gun shots rang out in Plainfield’s violence-plagued West End section with the same tragic outcome: a young man was dead.

Although the two shootings appear to be unrelated, they both occurred in broad daylight and left local residents frustrated as Plainfield’s homicide rate continues to spike.
One of the big pro-gun arguments is that what we read in the news is misleading, that these are just rare anecdotes and don't properly represent the reality. But, I'm afraid in Plainfield, just like in Austin, Texas, the reality is pretty grim.

[Keith] Hathaway’s death is the seventh homicide in Plainfield this year, far outpacing the two homicides that took place in Union County’s second-largest city in 2009.
What's your opinion? Are we having a bad year for gun violence? It sure seems like it. Of course, it's entirely possible that when the year-end statistics come out, they'll be some way to explain it all away. What do you think?

Please leave a comment.


  1. I think that according to the Brady Bunch website, NJ ranks second in the nation with 73 out of 100 points on their gun control scorecard. If this poster child of the gun control movement can still have issues like this, I'd hate to see what Brady's gun-free utopia would look like on a national level. I'm not buying the "weak surrounding states' gun laws," because it's already illegal to buy a gun out of state without an FFL transfer, and hence a NICS check. So if they are importing them from PA or even DE (because I'm sure they're not coming from the Brady friendly states of NY and MD), they're already breaking all kinds of Federal and state gun laws.

  2. Yup. How's that whole gun control thingy working out for you New Jersey?

  3. Don't blame New Jersey and for sure don't blame the NJ gun laws. There's a tsunami of guns flowing back and forth across the nation. It's too easy to get 'em and it's too easy to move 'em.

    Better laws which focus on the legal owners, sellers and distributors are what we need.

    Thoso responses about criminals don't obey the laws and certain things are already illegal are getting tired.

  4. Mike, if the "already illegal" response is getting tired, it's only because it has to keep up with the equally exhausted "gun control isn't working in NJ/CA/MA/NY/IL because there's too many guns coming in illegally from other states." Just admit that your favorite deceased equine has been overly flogged as well.

  5. Yes, indeed, we're beating each others horses to death and beyond. But, isn't it fun?

  6. From a guy that lives across the street Kieth Hathaway was affiliated with a local gang although he was not personally violent & trying to fly under the radar until he got a legit job which he was looking for and would have taken any work he could have gotten he bears a strong resemblance to another member of said gang & this was the second attempt on that other guy in which someone other than him was shot. The gun used likely came from Camden which is where their connect gets the guns from P.A. & there a plenty of street guns to be had. I legally own my guns and jumped trough quite a few hoops just to be able to have a handgun in my home for protection. Sorry to run on but the bottom line is criminals will kill someone with a butter knife if given one & this town has quite a few people in it who can't or wont find work & turn to the street life it has nothing to do with gun laws because they don't obey laws anyway.

  7. Anonymous, Thanks for your comment with the personal perspective.

    One of my points is that YOU do obey the laws. You see, gun control folks aren't so foolish as to really think that our ideas will work because criminals will obey them. We understand this fact of life as well as you do. But, law abiding people do obey the laws and that's where we can make a difference. With proper laws, nation-wide, we could lessen the flow of guns into the criminal world. That's the goal.

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