A snafu during a legislative debate where a microphone was turned on captured banter between two Iowa GOP leaders, who also joked about a “give-a-handgun-to-a-schizophrenic bill.”
Republicans this week revived a proposal that would allow Iowans to carry weapons in public without permission from a sheriff, without background checks and without training requirements.
Saturday, March 12, 2011
The 'Give-A-Handgun-To-A-Schizophrenic Bill'
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Because they are gun nuts, which mean that they want everyone to have them, and hate the idea of anyone - criminal, drug user, or dangerous psycho, or child being denied that sexual thrill. Fetishists.
ReplyDelete"Iowans to carry weapons in public without permission from a sheriff, without background checks and without training requirements."
ReplyDeleteIn other words, citizens of the United States. (The background check would have happened when they purchased the gun)Many States do not have training requirements, no data to support that it makes a difference.
Tell the truth, you like law abiding people jumping through bureaucratic hoops, don't you?
Do you think the criminals care about any of this?
What is a Gun Nut? Do I qualify?
ReplyDeleteAll of those you specify would not be able to legally buy a gun, let alone carry one.
I do not worship guns, I respect them for the tool they are. They allow me to feel secure and not have to rely on some other person to protect me.
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ReplyDeleteBecause they are gun nuts, which mean that they want everyone to have them, and hate the idea of anyone - criminal, drug user, or dangerous psycho, or child being denied that sexual thrill. Fetishists.
You seem to have some deep seated issues here, seriously have you thought about some skilled professional therapy?
This lumping some 85 million Americans into a classification as fetishists or pyschologically deranged strikes me as anti intellectual and somewhat delusional. I wonder what it is that has brought about the overwhelming fear of an inanimate object and those who use them safely and legally.
@Danny, "no data to support that it makes a difference."
ReplyDeleteReally??!! You think this?? You honestly believe that firearms training makes no difference in the safe and effective handling of a firearm? Who needs data when it is blatantly obvious?
At the very least they should have safety training and shoot a few clips into targets. Just as anyone who drives must be licensed to show proficiency, anyone who possesses a gun should show proficiency. Otherwise they endanger themselves and those around them even more.
Baldr. Again misreading the post.
ReplyDeleteThe statement was that in states that do not require specific training to get a permit, there is no evidence they suffer a higher rate of illegal gun use by permit holders.
Read that again.
See no one is saying gun safety is not important. We are only saying that of the people who obtained permits, there is no statistical difference from states which require training, and those that do not, in regards to the behavior of those permit holders.
P said, resorting to one of the classic pro-gun retorts, "there is no statistical difference."
ReplyDeleteOf course, there is a statistical difference. The denial of this or the demand for proof of it, are nothing more than arguing tactics which tend towards tedium and distraction.
Mike......
ReplyDeleteWe need facts. I am not demanding anything, I am asking to back up the claim and leave out the emotion. Not trying to add tedium and distraction, I only seek the truth and attempt to gather facts, not conjecture. Use PA as your example.
Pennsylvania is statistically no difference than Florida. Florida insists on it's LTCF folks to have live fire training and 8 hours of classroom. I looked, believe me, they are so close it is a tie.(Honestly?? PA was mathematically better, but a statistical tie)
You know I have a Utah, Florida and Pennsylvania license, I travel among the 38 States, I carry in them all, I obey the various laws of each and I have no problems. I would prefer that gun laws were uniform between the states, but I have a book that tells me what to do.
Maybe it's because I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express?
Fine Dannytheman, we need facts not emotion. I agree.
ReplyDeleteIs it emotional when I say it's too easy for mentally ill people to get guns legally? Is it emotional when I say that should be tightened up?
I'm presuming it would not affect you. (smile)