My comment, clearly expressing disapproval, was:
What's your opinion? Is there room for fun and games and fantasy in the life of the responsible gun owner?It may be fun, but it’s totally irresponsible. The guy in the video is not much different from the young video gamers Joe described. In fact, those young men will become the guy in the video, who still obviously lives in a fantasy world.
I don’t see how this kind of shooting fits in with responsible training and preparation. Guns are suppose to be serious business, isn’t that what you guys say, not playthings.
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Who cares what you think.....
ReplyDeletePlease make a list of the people that really care what you think....
Roll it up really tight, them jam it up your ass....
And technically that was not a fantasy since he was actually firing real guns not sitting in a chair dreaming about it.
Anonymous, tsk tsk tsk.
ReplyDeleteIf you follow the link back to the previous site, you will note that this is identified quite correctly as a gamer-mentality, blaze away who cares what you hit gun fetishist.
And believe me, I AM familiar with the gamer mentality; it was summed up perfectly.
dog gone, lets see,
ReplyDeleteno one got hurt,
the only thing that got hurt was the 8x14 steel plate...
Gamer mentality, so what, again he was at a gun range wasting he money and really who cares.....
It's his business how he wastes it and his time.....
An wow you are familar with the gamer mentality, so 12-22 year-olds is the extent of your life experience..... very sad....
Ear protection, eye protection, aiming at what he wanted to destroy, and good trigger discipline. Looks like he had some fun.
ReplyDeleteSo no I don't agree with you. He looks like a guy who has been a few firefights via military training. How much military training do you have?
Like Anon., I can't imagine the kind of pusillanimity that would cause someone to find what the guy did here actively objectionable (assuming it's his time and ammo to waste), although if the shooter wants to really do it right, he needs one of these ;-)!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, what "fantasy" is supposedly being indulged here, anyway?
He follows the four rules. No one got hurt.
ReplyDeleteHow is that wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having fun as long as you are safe and careful whil doing it.
Did you guys read the comments over on The Truth About Guns.
ReplyDeleteI'm not the only one criticizing this guy.
Guns are serious business, isn't that what you guy keep saying. They're not playthings. They're not playthings used to act out adolescent fantasies.
What's wrong with it is guys who use guns for that kind of "fun," are more likely to be dangerous lunatics who get off on playing with guns.
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ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with it is guys who use guns for that kind of "fun," are more likely to be dangerous lunatics who get off on playing with guns.
What the hell does this mean? I have a very nice car. Sometimes playing around I will slide it or turn the tires leaving a stoplight. I haven't gotten a ticket in years and when I play with my car I make sure the only thing that happens is what I intend.
Does that make a psycho driver. Oh, evil me. I squealed the tires. BFD. Get over it.
Mike you have this attitude that all guys with guns are compensating or have bloodiest buried inside just waiting for a chance to turn "call of duty" into real life. Nothing is further from the truth. Those who hunt have seen what a gun can do and have no desire to do that to another human unless under the most dire of situations. Those who have been in combat will tell you one thing. Killing sucks.
Many of us have a deep interest in mechanical things and in operator skills. Lots of gunners desire competition to test those skills. Target shooting. clays shooting, action shooting. There are tens of hundreds of thousands who participate in these pursuits, and the data shows they offend at all other crimes at far below the nominal levels of the rest of the population.
He was having fun. No one was hurt. He had planned his fun well, good safety measures and good backstop.
There is nothing to see here or to raise a fuss over. Move along.
mikeb302000 said...
ReplyDeleteDid you guys read the comments over on The Truth About Guns.
No, I did not go over to the tTAGs....
I'm not the only one criticizing this guy.
Again I will refer you to my first post "Who cares what you think....."
Guns are serious business, isn't that what you guy keep saying. They're not playthings. They're not playthings used to act out adolescent fantasies.
Well by definition he has to be an adult to play at the level exhibited in the video, since no adolescent could legally purchase the pistols he was "playing with....
What's wrong with it is guys who use guns for that kind of "fun," are more likely to be dangerous lunatics who get off on playing with guns.
Actually the majority of gun violence in this country is committed by people that are in business, now granted you can't grasp the fact that drug dealers are businessmen and their violence will be committed regardless of the laws that you want, and the rights that you want to strip from Americans...
Oh yeah, since I forgot, "dog gone" the same goes for you sweet cheeks, I don't give a rats ass what you think either....
They're not playthings used to act out adolescent fantasies.
ReplyDeleteYou keep talking about "fantasies," and I've asked you what "fantasy" is being indulged in the video, and you haven't bothered to answer.
Besides, the fact that guns must be used with great respect for the amount of damage they can inflict when misused doesn't make it some kind of sin to have some silly (but safe) fun with them.
It's as if you realize you can't ban ownership in a free country, so you'll try to do the next best thing, and stigmatize any enjoyment of the exercise of that particular fundamental human right.
Is it your contention, then, that shooting must be a dour, grim experience? I suppose that imposing that condition would serve your purpose--the more gun owners who commit suicide, the better for you, eh?
"Is there room for fun and games and fantasy in the life of the responsible gun owner?"
ReplyDeleteYes. Gun owners aren't under any moral mandate to not enjoy guns in a safe environment.
Zorroy said, "I've asked you what "fantasy" is being indulged in the video, and you haven't bothered to answer."
ReplyDeleteSorry, I read the Magoo comments over at Farago's and forgot to mention it here.
Magoo talked about how the failure to have a target at which you squeeze off each shotis the only responsible way to shoot. Other commenters said this kind of shooting is disallowed at the ranges they frequent.
The fantasy, to answer your question, must be pretending you're John Connor fighting off the Terminator. Of course not being a mind reader like you Zorroy, I wouldn't know for sure. But it would have to be something like that. Maybe pretending to be Bruce Willis or any other of a number of celluloid heroes.
Magoo talked about how the failure to have a target at which you squeeze off each shotis the only responsible way to shoot. Other commenters said this kind of shooting is disallowed at the ranges they frequent.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't explain how what he's doing is unsafe, you ought probably consider giving up on the idea of being taken seriously when you claim it's "irresponsible."
The fantasy, to answer your question, must be pretending you're John Connor fighting off the Terminator.
Do you have any evidence that the guy has even seen that movie? You acknowledge not being a mind reader (and repeat your bizarre implication that I have sometime, somewhere, claimed to be one), and admit that you therefore can't be sure of what the guy is thinking, but that apparently poses no difficulties for your certainty that he is indulging in "fantasy," and that in doing so, he is being irresponsible.
ROFL!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous wrote:
"An wow you are familar with the gamer mentality, so 12-22 year-olds is the extent of your life experience..... very sad.... "
No, that may be your experience, but it is not mine. My experience is with the game DESIGNERS, who were considerably more mature than 12-22 when I first met them. Including the game that launched the rest, dungeons and dragons, back in the day. You may have forgotten that D&D originated in my area - Wisconsin and Minnesota -as have a number of others.
I've had input into more than a few game designs, as well as the artwork, miniatures designers, etc. Those designers were also very shrewd businessmen, another aspect of their association that I enjoyed.
I really hate responding to fake questions designed only to fight tooth and nail and pick at every little point, but since I like Zorroy so much I'll do it.
ReplyDeleteThe guy is irresponsible because he did not have full control of his weapons. Some rounds wildly hit the ground well in front of the target, others probably went as far above. A little less control and we'd be calling him Bizilj Senior. That's big time irresponsible to me.
Based on this behaviour and his exuberant expression of enthusiasm at the end, I'd say he was acting out one of his many gun fantasies. But on that I'm only guessing.