Not only incredibly dramatic, but extremely rare too.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.When a burly ex-convict forced his way into a posh Florida home last week, he had no idea what awaited him -- a 25-year-old beauty queen with a pink .38-caliber handgun.
Meghan Brown, a former Florida pageant queen, shot and killed 42-year-old Albert Franklin Hill during a home invasion March 12 at the 2,732-square-foot house she shares with her fiance in Tierra Verde, Fla.
Hill barged into the home at around 3 a.m. after Brown responded to a knock at the front door, according to a police report. He allegedly grabbed the 110-pound Brown around her nose and mouth and dragged her to an upstairs bedroom.
The woman’s fiance, Robert Planthaber, said in an interview that he was quickly awakened by the altercation and ran to Brown’s side.
"I attacked him and took a severe beating to the head," Planthaber told FoxNews.com. "But I got him off of her long enough for her to scramble to the room where she keeps her pink .38 special.”
OK, so the first thoughts through my head were how difficult it would be to get a clear, safe shot in this situation, without shooting the fiance. What were the lighting arrangements, I wonder?
ReplyDeleteMy second thought was........wouldn't it have been safer and easier and quicker to bean the intruder in the head with something heavy, using less deadly force that would arguably have been safer for the fiance tangling with the intruder.
My third thought - if you have time to grab a gun, don't you have time to dial 911, yell "help!", and then return to the conflict, leaving the phone off the hook? That would be enough in most locations for the authorities to send the police or sheriff.....
My fourth thought - a dog would have been useful, and ......seriously, who is stupid enough to answer the door at 3 a.m., opening it to a big burly scary stranger in the first place?
dog gone, you moronic little twit, now please don't go getting all those thoughts in you pretty head, since no one here gives a bucket of warm piss about your moronic little thoughts.....
ReplyDeleteBut hey lets take a look why don't we....
Guy forces his way into someones home to rob them and we are supposed to be concerned about lighting arraignments .....
"bean the intruder", "using less deadly force", well we now know exactly what kind of moron you are you do realize that you can kill a man with a blow to the head with that precious "less deadlier force"
Oh, and I love the "dial 911 yell help!" and go back into the conflict....
(with Albert Hill who had a criminal record stretching back nearly three decades -- including arrests for burglary, battery, drug possession and grand theft. He reportedly served a 13-year prison term in 1987 and was released in September after serving a fourth term behind bars.)
only the fact that her fiancee was home kept her from waiting for the authorities to come and bodybag her remains after the fact.
And exactly how long is the 110lbs woman supposed to fight off the 4 time convicted felon till the police arrive?
Please for the love of the continuation of the intelligence of the human race do not breed....
get yourself sterilized and if you have had any stupid little progeny sterilize them as well......
You would wish you had a gun to protect yourself.....
ReplyDeleteHill barged into the home at around 3 a.m. after Brown responded to a knock at the front door, according to a police report. He allegedly grabbed the 110-pound Brown around her nose and mouth and dragged her to an upstairs bedroom.
One thing you should always remember..."When seconds count, the police are only minutes away", if you're lucky.
ReplyDeleteMike G
Far from being a "moronic little twit," I thought Dog Gone raised some good points. In fact there's enough there to question the whole story. I chose not to do that and take it at face value. I certainly could have included the disclaimer, "if the story is true."
ReplyDeleteMy main point was that a dramatic home invasion like this is a rare event. If you want to be prepared for every rare event, you really need to think about meteorites, if you're truly responsible, that is.
Anonymous, I'm confident my IQ, and probably my education, exceeds your own.
ReplyDeleteThe question about the safety of a clear shot is pertinent, and light - the ability to see or not see at 3 a.m. - is part of that. It occurred to me precisely because I took gun training which emphasized practicing in different light levels for target accuracy, and with light that was intermittent, and to know from that when it was safe to shoot and when it was not and how it affected your aim.
Yes, I know perfectly well that hitting someone in the head COULD kill them, but it is less likely to do so than a bullet, and far less likely to injure the fiance. Of all the options, that one presented the best way, imho, to maximize the advantage of the two people who lived in the home over the intruder - or, perhaps you don't think tactically?
My third point about calling 911 is that if you don't do so first, the police are coming later not sooner, whatever the time frame for their arrival.
Or didn't you think of that? Apparently neither did thatmrguy; neither of you are Einsteins. It is the police who will have the best probability of not only subduing this intruder, but getting him out - and rendering whatever first aid might be needed as well.
Here is a question that wasn't asked - but should be. What could this 110 pound woman have done that would have changed the outcome? What if she answered the door at 3 a.m., already carrying the pretty (stupid) pink gun?
(Sorry, I have an aversion to prettifying weapons; it fails to acknowledge them for what they are.)
Here is what is wrong with that scenario - she would have lost all advantage of range/distance that one has with a gun. Something that was stressed to me, in training, as a woman owning a gun for self-defense. The closer she was to her attacker, the greater the likelihood increased of it being used against her, and not by her, in self-defense.
This woman is a bimbo, an airhead, and genuinely stupid. No one should be representing her as some kind of hero. She should never have opened the door in the first place.
She should receive some sort of dunce award - hey, Mike!
I think you should start such an award; on penigma we have the 'pennies' where we give an award that represents our two cents worth of opinion. We have the bad penny award for really egregiously bad things or behavior... we need a good name for awards here....
Anonymous, that 'bucket of warm piss' would be put to best use poured over your head. Someone does care what I think here; the person who counts.
That's why I'm the newest admin. and contributing author. That gives me moderating approval over your comments. Just pointing that out, for your consideration on the topic of who cares about what.
You're a blog administrator....woohoo, go grab yourself a cookie!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletea whole lot to administrate, 6 posts in 24 hours....
try 72 responses in 26 hours.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368677/Beauty-queen-Meghan-Brown-kills-burglar-pink-gun-fights-fianc.html#ixzz1HN6BAqMS
"Not only incredibly dramatic, but extremely rare too."
ReplyDeleteactually
http://www.wapt.com/r/27286586/detail.html
http://www.wnem.com/news/27267465/detail.html
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/03/19/shootout-in-clifton-heights/
http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_3694b200-4f92-11e0-b8a7-001cc4c002e0.html
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2011/03/16/man-says-he-shot-at-four-males-who-attacked-him/
http://www.llanonews.com/news/article/40028
http://www.lex18.com/news/lexington-delivery-driver-shoots-alleged-robber
Not so rare.....
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteYou're a blog administrator....woohoo, go grab yourself a cookie!!!!!!!!
a whole lot to administrate, 6 posts in 24 hours....
try 72 responses in 26 hours.....
Silly ill-informed Anon; I am the moderator on more than one blog, and an author on several as well, including one where I'm syndicated in the U.S. and Canada.
What if anything of value have you had to add,.... anywhere?
Try improving you content, so I don't have to continue to delete your comments for offensiveness and utter lack of merit on the topic.
In other words, consider yourself on notice that no one here particularly cares about your moronic thoughts, including me, whereas if YOU want to share your thoughts, you do need to care, at least a little, what I think if I'm the person who happens to moderate them.
I'm not going to engage in a pissing contest with you, even if you keep a bucket handy for yours.
Next time, I'll simply hit delete if you're not worth reading, without the courtesy of an explanation or notice.
"Silly ill-informed Anon; I am the moderator on more than one blog, and an author on several as well, including one where I'm syndicated in the U.S. and Canada."
ReplyDeleteThat warrants more than one cookie then....
A syndicated blogger, wow kinda like being a professional masturbator.... like being Napoleon Bonaparte in a french nut house....
Does someone actually pay you for the crap you post.... Please enlighten me, show me the blog you get paid for syndicating.... that is why you do that right....
And how sad is it that you have to bulk up your user profile by following your own blog....
God you are an Idiot....
Penigma is syndicated through Newstex, and through their Canadian subsidiary.
ReplyDeleteThe content is sold to a variety of consumers, including academic research, corporations, think tanks. I also am a writer on another national blog, where I was invited to contribute as one of only two writers from MN, and previously wrote for awhile for politicus usa, within a couple of weeks of beginning to write for Penigma.
We have a number of government offices that follow our writing, as well as 'hits' from a number of universities.
Who the hell reads you, much less pays you for it? You seem to routinely subsitute common vulgarity for substance; perhaps you don't know the difference.
I became a follower on Penigma before I joined it as a blogger; I didn't see the point in removing myself, since I do also follow the writing of the other authors on our blog. It had nothing to do with puffing up anything.
Oh....It seems silly Annoy-nimus has left the fray, in defeat, the vulgar pissant, having contributed once again, no substance, and flawed reasoning.
ReplyDeleteAnnoy, you have failed to address with logic any of the points I made, and clearly failed to read with comprehension, having missed understanding pertinent details.
You seem to have missed more than the significant details of this post. It doesn't particularly matter that other people pay me for what I write.
What matters, to what you write, is that I am one of the three people who post what you write here - or do not post here. Keep that in mind, because I don't intend to publish any of your comments that are just insults, no substance.
So, do try to stay on topic; I recognize this is a struggle for you. But try. Make the effort. Maybe you can improve.
Otherwise you're wasting more of your time than mine. I can delete your comments a lot faster than you can write them.
Anonymous, Thanks for the links. I checked each one of them and found just what I expected. You, not unlike your mentors Kleck and Lott, like to count every and any possible incident as a legitimate DGU. The fact is some of them were not. Some of them were unnecessary, perhaps even criminal, shootings, which get white-washed because gunowners and police alike hate criminals.
ReplyDeletePlus, the 7 links you provided covered a two-month period of time, minimum. You would have had to close your eyes or skip over hundreds of stories of gun violence in order to find them.
Good luck, man. Keep telling yourself that guns do more good than harm. You may really convince yourself one day.
"What if anything of value have you had to add,.... anywhere?"
ReplyDeletewell you sad, sad, little blogging Panda,
acording to Alexa.com....
penigma.blogspot.com
* Alexa Traffic Rank: 6,174,803
* No regional data
Man can't even get a shout out from your Canadian hommies
* Sites Linking In: 14
And finally lets look at the bang up job you are doing here...
Site Information for mikeb302000.blogspot.com
* Alexa Traffic Rank: 2,125,492
* US Traffic Rank US: 531,868
* Sites Linking In: 59
.....I would not have to do much more than scratch my keister to get more traffic than your too sad sites.
but meanwhile......
a couple of sites about defensive gun use and rights...
gunwatch.blogspot.com
* Alexa Traffic Rank: 2,943,735
* No regional data
* Sites Linking In: 82
stuckinmassachusetts.blogspot.com
* Alexa Traffic Rank: 648,629
* US Traffic Rank / US: 95,460
* Sites Linking In: 100
booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com
* Alexa Traffic Rank: 488,323
* US Traffic Rank in US: 76,846
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....do much better than you......
I certainly hope that you did not pay money for that syndication?
And, Mike, Mile, Mike...... I hope you're not paying her more than Walmart greeter money.
But I do get it now dog gone, how did it feel when Ariana sold out all you hard working Huff-post bloggers? Seen any of that $111m?
Mike isn't paying me at all.
ReplyDeleteVolume isn't the metric we use for quality - perhaps you don't understand the difference between quality and quantity? You seem weak on conceptual and verbal skills.
No, I didn't pay for syndication; they had an editor approach me, offering a contract for non-exclusive access to our content.
Your numbers don't tell the important story in any case; for example one recent post of mine was linked in a Daily Kos post, and picked up and reposted by some 50 blogs, where it was more widely read.
Scratching your butt is about all you are capable of doing apparently. It does seem to suggest which end is the more active in your case; not much point in you scratching your head. It's obviously pretty dead in there, since you are unable to respond with any thought to the points I made. All you are able to do apparently is join the chorus of your gunfriends in their echo chamber. Whooo hoo for you, you big joke.
Alexa isn't really the most reliable stat service in any case, is it?
One of the things I enjoy about blogging is it has connected me to some very interesting people - including artists, editorial cartoonists, investigative reporters, various political figures, and so on.
You clearly, Annoy-numb-ass, don't make that list.
Now, do you have anything to add to the topic? Because if not, expect garbage to be deleted not posted.
This blog is about other things, not me, not the other contributors.
"Mike isn't paying me at all."
ReplyDeleteWell then he is not a complete dunce then.....
"Volume isn't the metric we use for quality"
Then enlighten me show me the metric the educated use....
"Volume isn't the metric we use for quality - perhaps you don't understand the difference between quality and quantity? You seem weak on conceptual and verbal skills."
But volume of hit is a metric, showing who finds your blogging of some quality.... Or Apple would sell on IPad/Pod and call it quality sales year.....
"No, I didn't pay for syndication; they had an editor approach me, offering a contract for non-exclusive access to our content."
Wow, he asked permission to link to your blog..... unpaid..... I've never heard of that happening before....
"Your numbers don't tell the important story in any case; for example one recent post of mine was linked in a Daily Kos post, and picked up and reposted by some 50 blogs, where it was more widely read."
Show me a post under any of your nom de plumes....50 blogs and no track backs.....
"Alexa isn't really the most reliable stat service in any case, is it?"
So what stat service do you use?
"This blog is about other things, not me, not the other contributors."
"OK, so the first thoughts through my head were"
"My second thought was....."
"My third thought -"
"My fourth thought -"
Seems that your reply had a whole lot to do with "you".....