"Springer had no problem passing a computerized background check. He didn’t have a criminal history. There were no signs of mental illness. “He basically showed an interest in taking classes. There was nothing out of the ordinary with the guy,” Doetzer said. But two days later, his 26-year-old girlfriend, a Carnegie Mellon University student was dead. Springer was a CMU alumnus who worked for the university. Both were from Thailand. Police say the couple had trouble in the past, but there were no protection from abuse orders filed."
So there was nothing wrong and he jumped through all of the bureaucratic hoops required. Why do you think any kind of waiting period would have made any difference?
A waiting period might make all the difference with mentally unstable people.
Yeah--for those who are dangerously nuts at the time of sale, but will be right as rain in three days, and stay that way for life. There must be legions of those.
Actually I think all gun purchases should have a waiting period, no matter how many times the same person has bought a gun before. I agree with Sammy. Just because a person was stable when they bought a gun doesn't mean they are still stable 10 years later. In fact many stories tell us (especially domestic abuse cases) that a once sane person who owns a gun having passed all legal requirements, suddenly uses that weapon in an illegal manner.
I agree that gun owners who are safe and responsible sometimes stop being so. But, since the waiting period is to prevent an impulsive violent act, a gun owner who wants to do something like that doesn't have to go out and buy a gun, they will simply use one they already own. Therefore, the waiting period is only necessary for first purchases. Of course, in order to know who's who, we need licensing and registration too.
"But, since the waiting period is to prevent an impulsive violent act, a gun owner who wants to do something like that doesn't have to go out and buy a gun, they will simply use one they already own."
I'll go along with that.
"Of course, in order to know who's who, we need licensing and registration too."
Agreed, but gun loons see that as the first step to government confiscation. That's where I agree with the "loon" moniker.
"Springer had no problem passing a computerized background check. He didn’t have a criminal history. There were no signs of mental illness.
ReplyDelete“He basically showed an interest in taking classes. There was nothing out of the ordinary with the guy,” Doetzer said.
But two days later, his 26-year-old girlfriend, a Carnegie Mellon University student was dead. Springer was a CMU alumnus who worked for the university. Both were from Thailand.
Police say the couple had trouble in the past, but there were no protection from abuse orders filed."
So there was nothing wrong and he jumped through all of the bureaucratic hoops required. Why do you think any kind of waiting period would have made any difference?
A waiting period might make all the difference with mentally unstable people.
DeleteA waiting period might make all the difference with mentally unstable people.
DeleteYeah--for those who are dangerously nuts at the time of sale, but will be right as rain in three days, and stay that way for life. There must be legions of those.
As Sandra said. First purchases should always be subjected to a waiting period
DeleteAs Sandra said. First purchases should always be subjected to a waiting period
DeleteWhere did she say that?
Good point Kurt. Which is a good argument to have annual mental check ups for anyone who has ever bought a gun and still has it.
DeleteActually I think all gun purchases should have a waiting period, no matter how many times the same person has bought a gun before.
DeleteI agree with Sammy. Just because a person was stable when they bought a gun doesn't mean they are still stable 10 years later.
In fact many stories tell us (especially domestic abuse cases) that a once sane person who owns a gun having passed all legal requirements, suddenly uses that weapon in an illegal manner.
Seems the guy in Georgia (and many other reported cases) makes my point.
DeleteI agree that gun owners who are safe and responsible sometimes stop being so. But, since the waiting period is to prevent an impulsive violent act, a gun owner who wants to do something like that doesn't have to go out and buy a gun, they will simply use one they already own. Therefore, the waiting period is only necessary for first purchases. Of course, in order to know who's who, we need licensing and registration too.
Delete"But, since the waiting period is to prevent an impulsive violent act, a gun owner who wants to do something like that doesn't have to go out and buy a gun, they will simply use one they already own."
DeleteI'll go along with that.
"Of course, in order to know who's who, we need licensing and registration too."
Agreed, but gun loons see that as the first step to government confiscation. That's where I agree with the "loon" moniker.
"A waiting period might make all the difference with mentally unstable people.", but in this case it didn't.
ReplyDeleteDid he have to wait?
DeleteHow many cases would it have? None?
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