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An Iowa woman is leading a baby-wearing, gun carrying workshop, because there’s nothing cuter than Second Amendment babies and we all know that guns and toddlers are a great combination.
“If you’re a mother, and if you’re an armed mother, they have to. You have no choice,” said Melody Lauer/mother-gun instructor, as if she really feels there is no other choice.
“I was actually working at both a gun store and a parenting center at the same time,” Lauer said.
She’s not trying to convince parents that they should carry a gun. Simply encouraging them to do it safely, if they choose to.
“We have seen a huge insurgence in young mothers – mothers of young children, wanting to get into firearms. And what’s happening is we don’t have instructors that are addressing their needs. So they just do it. They don’t do it right and then they end up having an accident,” Lauer said.
Who are these ‘insurgent’ mothers who are rising up against the government? She may not know the definition of actual words, but you can put the safety of your children in her crazy hands.
“If you have baby on one side, it’s best to have gun on the other side,” Lauer said as if no one knew about this concept before.
So she sees a need for providing training for a small niche of gun owners to make people safer and that's a bad thing? Since the people she intends to instruct are already intending to excercise their rights, what exactly is the downside of exploring these techniques in a safe environment?
ReplyDeleteInteresting also how it devolves into ridiculing her choice of words to attack her credibility. Wasn't that technique somehow considered very unfair when being applied to politicians who couldn't tell the difference between a magazine and an ammunition clip?
Well said SS. Gun control has never been about safety if it were we would see many more free gun safety classes for all ages put on by the control side of the debate
DeleteRight George, like gun loons would show up at a gun safety class offered by gun control people.
DeleteIt highlights the absurdity of carrying a gun in the first place. When your hands are going to be occupied with carrying a baby, leave the gun at home in the safe.
DeleteMike, as you can see in the photo you posted, she uses a hands free device.
DeleteFredsamdra what about the vast number of gun owners we are told agree with what gun control advocates such as yourself want to do....would they not be willing to attend the safety classes spoken of.....I myself would take a class put on by any group as long as I believed the instructor to be competent and there was no political propaganda being disseminated....If safety is the real concern of they antis they should be teaching it and not just talking about it as most groups and people do.
DeleteI've often thought the same thing George. For example, Everytown and the MOMs frequently push for the passage of safe gun storage legislation, spending millions in lobbying.
DeleteHowever, you never hear of them putting up any money for actually supporting real world safe storage programs like "Project Childsafe",
"Project ChildSafe is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt charity. Project ChildSafe is also a program committed to promoting firearms safety among all firearms owners through the distribution of safety education messages and free firearm Safety Kits. The kits include a cable-style gun-locking device and a brochure (also available in Spanish) that discusses safe handling and storage to help deter access by unauthorized individuals, including at-risk persons.Project ChildSafe is a real solution to making our communities safer. Through vital partnerships with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders, state agencies, businesses, the firearms industry and other stakeholders, Project ChildSafe has distributed more than 36 million firearms safety kits to gun owners in all 50 states and five U.S. territories, and has helped raise awareness about the safe and responsible ownership of firearms and the importance of securely storing firearms to reduce access by unauthorized individuals."
http://www.projectchildsafe.org/about
For some reason, I'm not seeing either one of the groups I mentioned on the list of supporters. I wonder why?
As typical gun loons you can't take the responsibility that gun safety is YOUR sides responsibility. The other side pushes it because you gun loons won't and could care less about saving lives. You expose your ridiculousness by making childish jokes about my name and of couse your lack of concern about gun safety.
DeleteHow does encouraging a class in safe carry of firearms translate to a lack of concern about gun safety? And this class is being conducted by "our side" so "we" are taking responsibility for trying to make things better. "We" however tend to work in the here and now and understand that changing behavior in a positive way, like this training does will have a more immediate effect on safety than passing a law.
Delete"She’s not trying to convince parents that they should carry a gun."
DeleteThey why teach a class that supposedly shows how to carry a gun? You can't say she's not promoting carrying a gun when her class instructs how one should carry a gun.
Fredsamdra the vast majority of us pro rights people believe gun safety is everyone's responsibility...meaning even those who choose not to own firearms should be prepared to safely handle one if encountered as well all children should be taught basic firearms safety and discouraged from participating in unsafe behavior as should everyone...yet most on the anti gun side choose to not prepare their children or themselves for the world they live in instead they are taught about a fantasy that does.
DeleteWhen it comes to your name Fredsamdra I make no jokes I believe as do some others you are one person who post under at least three names on this blog so I have simply combined them into one ..That is all I have exposed
They why teach a class that supposedly shows how to carry a gun? You can't say she's not promoting carrying a gun when her class instructs how one should carry a gun.
DeleteSo, Fred, middle school students and younger are taught about safe sex, would you say the school is "promoting" kids having sex?
That must mean you are GeorgeSJSSTS, since you all say the same thing. Exposed what? You truly are a conspiracy theorist nut job.
DeleteSince guns are so prevalent in our society I believe everyone should know about guns and gun safety, but for you to put that responsibility on non gun owners just shows what an irresponsible gun loon you are.
Now back to your childish name jokes, which proves you are not serious, but just being another idiot gun loon.
"You can't say she's not promoting carrying a gun when her class instructs how one should carry a gun."
DeleteQuite easily Fred. She isn't teaching a carry permit class. So the people who attend it already have a carry permit and have already made the decision to carry. Therefor, no promotion is involved.
Not that there's anything wrong with carrying a firearm for self defense is that is what you wish to do.
"[T]he vast majority of us pro rights people believe gun safety is everyone's responsibility...meaning even those who choose not to own firearms should be prepared to safely handle one if encountered as well all children should be taught basic firearms safety and discouraged from participating in unsafe behavior as should everyone..."
DeleteExcellently stated, George. It is possible that anyone could need to know how to handle a weapon--we could go on and on with examples--e.g. finding one a criminal ditched, finding one out in the forest that someone lost hunting, teacher taking one from a student's bag, babysitter taking it from the child of some numbnuts who didn't store it safely, etc. It would be best if everyone knew how to properly handle and clear such a weapon so that they don't have an accident with it.
Even if we had Mikeb's entire wishlist of laws, these possibilities would remain, and knowing how to safely handle and unload a gun would remain an important skill for everyone to know.
"That must mean you are GeorgeSJSSTS".....Thanks for the compliment Fredsamdra I am quite pleased to be grouped with these fine people...You have honored me in a way that I am not deserving of please feel free to refer to me as whatever you would like you inept troglodyte...idiot and gun loon while not being very imaginative seem to be your standard go to attempts at insulting people who I have said before are not insulted by people of your character we are amused by your sophomoric attempts to get under our skin
Delete"Since guns are so prevalent in our society I believe everyone should know about guns and gun safety, but for you to put that responsibility on non gun owners just shows what an irresponsible gun loon you are.".........So you agree everyone should have the knowledge well thats good....I put the responsibility on ALL adults to acquire safety training for themselves and their children...if that responsibility is too much for you Fredsamdra then perhaps you and some gun owners who also choose not to take their or their childrens safety seriously should stick your heads in the sand while us irresponsible gun loons as you call us like a good parrot teach ourselves and our children safe gun handling protocols as we believe it EVERYONES responsibility to do.....The NRA while not my favorite organization does a wonderful job teaching gun safety to people with little or no experience such as yourself if it is not too much responsibility for you to have to sign up for the class and attend it
Gee, it's so nice gun loons are allowed to insult, but I'm not allowed to respond. Just another insult blog I guess.
DeleteGee I guess when Antis act in such a callow manner by referring to gun owners as loons in every comment they make they don't realize just how unhinged they appear to the logical
DeleteAt least he isn't spelling it with a z, yet.
DeleteMakes sense. Carrying a baby concealed is difficult, and perhaps even a bit cruel, for most. nom-marsupials.
ReplyDeleteDifficult? Try impossible. Those things print like hell!
Delete*snort*!! good one SJ. To say nothing of the nine month waiting period where it still prints, but you have no access.
DeleteHere's a much more even handed look at this posting,
ReplyDelete“We have seen a huge insurgence in young mothers, mothers of young children, wanting to get into firearms. And what’s happening is we don’t have instructors that are addressing their needs. So they just do it. They don’t do it right and then they end up having an accident.”
So as a firearm instructor and parenting expert, she’s going where no one has really gone before. She’s not trying to convince parents that they should carry a gun. She’s simply encouraging them to do it safely, if they do choose to."
"Barry Snell from Crossroads Shooting Sports says, “To our knowledge, nobody is doing this yet. The interest was so great that she actually had to turn off or shut off the registration. Otherwise, we would have had two, three times as many people here.”
http://wwlp.com/2015/03/02/class-teaching-how-to-carry-guns-and-babies/
And judging by the demand, I hope she continues to conduct these classes.
Somehow, I suspect the "demand" is not all it's cracked up to be.
DeleteThen the market will decide and no big deal.
Delete"She’s not trying to convince parents that they should carry a gun. She’s simply encouraging them to do it safely, if they do choose to."
DeleteWhat dishonest BS.
What's dishonest? Do you think she's chatting up parents at the parenting center she works at? If so, she's a damn good salesperson.
DeleteMore likely, they have something posted on the gun store web site and in the store as well. So the parents are likely for the most part gun owners.
I'm supposed to believe she's starting up classes she doesn't want to work and doesn't believe in? You go ahead and believe that.
DeleteI'm sure she believes in the classes and wants the class to be successful. I answered this one in the last comment you copied and pasted in here. Doing it over and over again doesn't strengthen what little argument, if any you have.
DeleteWhat a ridiculous stance, to say she isn't promoting carry when she teaches classes in carry.
DeleteTraining isn’t mean to actually teach. It is meant to be used as a deterrent to ownership and mandated before being allowed to own. If someone gets training after getting a gun, that is closing the barn door after the horses escape. People who seek out training are “nuts” and “fanatics” for doing so.
ReplyDeleteNo, they're nuts and fanatics for wanting to carry a gun while carrying an infant baby too.
DeleteMike, you tend to believe that a person is a nut or fanatic for carrying a gun irregardless of the presence of a child.
DeleteNo, they're nuts and fanatics for wanting to carry a gun while carrying an infant baby too.
DeleteBecause, as we all know, of course, when one is "carrying an infant baby" (as opposed to an "adult baby"?), one becomes immune to violent crime, and is thus absolved of the responsibility to defend oneself and one's baby.
"Mike, you tend to believe that a person is a nut or fanatic for carrying a gun irregardless of the presence of a child."
DeleteNo such word as 'irregardless.' Maybe you and Melody could team up.
Yes, carrying a gun around with a child makes one a nut or fanatic and just not very bright.
"No such word as 'irregardless.' Maybe you and Melody could team up."
DeleteSorry, the commute wouldn't work. I have been considering getting into training after I retire from the military.
I guess the more important discussion would be how to kill someone safely while keeping your infant out of harm's way.
ReplyDeleteAs I've sagely noted previously, much of gunloonery is about separating rubes from their money.
ReplyDeleteAnd that is what is called a voluntary association. Unless it's somehow mandated by the government in the form of required training.
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