What's your opinion? Dealing pot and having a gun "accident" is a no-no, while just having a gun "accident" usually merits no charges.Shreveport police say one sister was shot and another arrested after an accidental shooting.
Conchetta Rhymes was accidentally shot by her sister, Alicia Rhymes, Sunday afternoon, while playing with a handgun. Conchetta Rhymes was driven to the hospital with a bullet wound to the stomach.
Police say detectives, granted permission to search the room where the shooting occurred, found the gun, about 3 ½ pounds of marijuana and $3,000 in cash. Alicia Rhymes was booked with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute while in possession of a firearm.
Does anyone else find that backwards?
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ReplyDeleteDealing pot and having a gun "accident" is a no-no, while just having a gun "accident" usually merits no charges.
ReplyDeleteLA has some very strict laws when it comes to possession of a firearm while committing any other crime. LA also has a very broad negligent discharge law (which is a felony) and there is a very good chance that Ms. Rhymes was also charged with that or will be.
Well, I certainly applaud any state that charges a felony for negligence with a gun.
DeleteWhy, mikeb302000, you make it sound like there might be some racism and classism involved. Drug dealers, crackheads, junkies, whores and other miscreants DESERVE being shot for being criminals--you KNOW that, you just won't admit it!
ReplyDeleteYeah, that LA, "negligent discharge" law has held down the shootings, no doubt. LA only had 437 murders, a mere 351 committed with gunz and a paltry 263 of those with handgunz. NY, otoh, had a whopping 860 murders, a stunning 517 committed with gunz and an astonishing 135 committed with handgunz. LA has 4,574,836 (2010 U.S. Census) people living in it's "armed and polite" society whereas that cesspit of crime, NY has just 19,465,197 (2010 U.S. Census). It's easy to see that gunz make people safer--um, lemme check that last set of figures....
ReplyDeleteYeah, that LA, "negligent discharge" law has held down the shootings, no doubt. LA only had 437 murders, a mere 351 committed with gunz and a paltry 263 of those with handgunz.
DeleteAre you suggesting that those mere 351 murders were actually negligent discharges? As I've said before, these laws don't stop crime, they punish people for certain acts. Also, you can't discount the contribution to the murder rate by the NOPD.
NY, otoh, had a whopping 860 murders, a stunning 517 committed with gunz and an astonishing 135 committed with handgunz.
This makes one wonder how often the NYPD under reports crime or manipulates crime statistics.
Demo - you seem to be arguing that LA's gun control laws don't work.
ReplyDeleteAs a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun.
ReplyDeleteYes, indeed. It's fascinating how they act just like the qualified ones, in many cases.
Delete"This makes one wonder how often the NYPD under reports crime or manipulates crime statistics."
ReplyDeleteI know what you mean. Gunshot wounds resulting in death are often attributed to blunt force trauma or, maybe, deathfairies. Right.
ALL governmental departments, teachers, CEOCFOEeenyMeenyMineyMo's report their stats in whatever way will get them the most favorabe review. This is not a revelation. When folks get murdered, it's kinda tough to pad the stats and not call it what it is*.
"Demo - you seem to be arguing that LA's gun control laws don't work"
No gun laws work unless they are enforced. And when states with some form of firearms regulation sit next to or are surrounded by states that have none, well, we know where that leads.
* There are of course suicides, by LEO's or other "connected" individuals, which are called something else, probably not that many.
LA's gunzlawz
LA's gunzlawz
Deleteconfusing democommie for 200 years.
negligent discharge has nothing to do with the stats you quoted.
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
ReplyDeleteDamn, boy, you ARE fast. You already have access to her criminal record? Or are you just talking through your ass?
No, I'm discussing probabilities. If she is a drug dealer, there's a large chance that she's got a record. Does she strike you as the kind of person who's bright enough to avoid getting caught?
DeleteBy the way, you don't have my permission to call me boy or son.
Discussing probabilities, I thought, was my thing. Aren't you one of the guys who keeps asking me for proof?
DeleteWe would like your probability arguments to fit with actual probabilities.
DeleteDemocommie - Mikeb almsot always adds a tagline of probable NRA member or probable CCW permit holder to his gun stories. I assume you chastise him in private for "talking through his ass"?
ReplyDelete"LA's gunzlawz
ReplyDeleteconfusing democommie for 200 years.
negligent discharge has nothing to do with the stats you quoted."
Aw, I think Mr. Baldwin is all frownyfaced, 'cuz he doesn't have any snappy rejoinder that erases the fact that LA has a murder rate (using a gun) that is about 3X that of New York. Considering that you gunzloonz LOVE to hold up NY as a shithole of moral turpitude and violence, I suppose that having to look at facts is a bummer.
As mikeb302000 has stated many times, it's all about the ease with which they're gettin' their handz on teh gunz.
"No, I'm discussing probabilities."
ReplyDeleteNo, you're not. You either made a stupid comment, or you were lying. Those are the two possibilities. Make a choice, son*.
"Democommie - Mikeb almsot always adds a tagline of probable NRA member or probable CCW permit holder to his gun stories. I assume you chastise him in private for "talking through his ass"?"
"probable" being the operant word. Greg Camp did not use that word, he fucked up or he lied. It's exactly that simple.
* I do not need your permission, Greg Camp, to address you in any way that I choose. I need mikeb302000's permission to post/comment here, not yours. Get over yourself.
And Greg said "likely." Granted it is not the same as "probable" and I am not going to bother to look to see if Mikeb ever used "likely" NRA or "likely" CCW permit holder, but I am pretty sure they are closely related words with about the same meaning. So are you still claiming Greg is lying but MikeB is being 100% honest in his assertions?
DeleteMikeb, I am not a boy, nor am I Democommie's son. Given the new policy around here, I figured that such terms would not be allowed.
ReplyDeleteDemocommie, how was my comment either stupid or a lie? Are you suggesting that people who deal drugs aren't likely to have a criminal record? That's an assessment of probability and a much higher probability than the person in question having a carry license.
But will you please define the word, lie, for us? To borrow from "The Princess Bride," I do not think it means what you think it means.
Greg - the idea that Democommie is wrong in inconcievable!
DeleteOne of the truly great films--I mean it!
DeleteAnybody want a peanut?
Please Greg lighten up a bit. I already told you I'd be the judge of what stays and what gets deleted. Let me do it.
DeleteI'm just tired of Democommie calling me a liar when he refuses to back up his accusation with any proof. My offer is still on the table. I'll go away forever if he can prove that I've lied--in other words, prove that I've said something that I knew to be false.
DeleteJimApr 4, 2012 06:19 AM
ReplyDeleteAnd Greg said "likely." Granted it is not the same as "probable" and I am not going to bother to look to see if Mikeb ever used "likely" NRA or "likely" CCW permit holder, but I am pretty sure they are closely related words with about the same meaning. So are you still claiming Greg is lying but MikeB is being 100% honest in his assertions?"
Syntax, Jim, syntax.
This:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
not this:
"Id she's a convicted drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
is what he wrote.
Greg Camp isn't saying that it's likely she's a drug dealer, he's saying that she IS a drug dealer. See the difference? If not, I'd suggest a course in remedial reading, stat!
Greggie:
"Mikeb, I am not a boy, nor am I Democommie's son. Given the new policy around here, I figured that such terms would not be allowed."
Whining to mikeb302000, again; but what else should we expect.
the word, "son" or, "boy", is equivalent to what? It's not an insult, dear, it's sarcasm.
"Democommie, how was my comment either stupid or a lie? Are you suggesting that people who deal drugs aren't likely to have a criminal record? That's an assessment of probability and a much higher probability than the person in question having a carry license."
Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back and re-read mikeb302000's original post to find the part where he said that the woman with the gun had a carry license, or a license of any kind. Gimme a moment...nope, you're full of shit on that one, too. Doubling down on one lie, by telling another with invented "facts" is no way to go through life, son.
Greggie:
"Do I know what the word, "lie" means. Why, yes, Greggie, I think I do.
This:
lie 1 [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly•ing.
noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object)
5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
So, according to that set of definitions I might cut you some slack if you had said:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
and, when notified as to the error, made a correction or retraction (neither of which you did) instead of being petulant, whiney and desirous of simply changing the subject/moving the goal posts? Well then you'd simply be WRONG. Being WRONG and knowing it, repeating the comment/refusing to retract it--that's lying, son.
Here's a thought experiment, genius. Try saying, "My comment was WRONG and I admit it", while looking in a mirror. Maybe after you've done that with yourself for a few days you can try it with others--I doubt it, but what the hell, give it a shot.
Let's see: The sister is identified as a drug dealer. Dealing drugs is a crime. People who commit crimes like that often have criminal records. People with criminal records of that nature are prohibited from having guns.
DeleteWhere's the lie in any of that?
Calling me son or boy in this context is dismissive and disrespectful. I understood that such language was out of bounds now. But I suppose that anyone who asks the moderator to enforce the rules evenly is just being whiny in Democommie's book.
DeleteIf your going to chastise Greg, you better do the same to MikeB as well.
DeleteHe accused her of dealing pot - "Dealing pot and having a gun "accident" is a no-no, while just having a gun "accident" usually merits no charges."
So according to your reasoning, he either lied or he f*ed. In most everyone elses world if your dealing pot, then your a drug dealer.
JimApr 4, 2012 06:19 AM
ReplyDeleteAnd Greg said "likely." Granted it is not the same as "probable" and I am not going to bother to look to see if Mikeb ever used "likely" NRA or "likely" CCW permit holder, but I am pretty sure they are closely related words with about the same meaning. So are you still claiming Greg is lying but MikeB is being 100% honest in his assertions?"
Syntax, Jim, syntax.
This:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
not this:
"Id she's a convicted drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
is what he wrote.
Greg Camp isn't saying that it's likely she's a drug dealer, he's saying that she IS a drug dealer. See the difference? If not, I'd suggest a course in remedial reading, stat!
Greggie:
"Mikeb, I am not a boy, nor am I Democommie's son. Given the new policy around here, I figured that such terms would not be allowed."
Whining to mikeb302000, again; but what else should we expect.
the word, "son" or, "boy", is equivalent to what? It's not an insult, dear, it's sarcasm.
"Democommie, how was my comment either stupid or a lie? Are you suggesting that people who deal drugs aren't likely to have a criminal record? That's an assessment of probability and a much higher probability than the person in question having a carry license."
Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back and re-read mikeb302000's original post to find the part where he said that the woman with the gun had a carry license, or a license of any kind. Gimme a moment...nope, you're full of shit on that one, too. Doubling down on one lie, by telling another with invented "facts" is no way to go through life, son.
Greggie:
"Do I know what the word, "lie" means. Why, yes, Greggie, I think I do.
This:
lie 1 [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly•ing.
noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object)
5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
So, according to that set of definitions I might cut you some slack if you had said:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
and, when notified as to the error, made a correction or retraction (neither of which you did) instead of being petulant, whiney and desirous of simply changing the subject/moving the goal posts? Well then you'd simply be WRONG. Being WRONG and knowing it, repeating the comment/refusing to retract it--that's lying, son.
Here's a thought experiment, genius. Try saying, "My comment was WRONG and I admit it", while looking in a mirror. Maybe after you've done that with yourself for a few days you can try it with others--I doubt it, but what the hell, give it a shot.
JimApr 4, 2012 06:19 AM
ReplyDeleteAnd Greg said "likely." Granted it is not the same as "probable" and I am not going to bother to look to see if Mikeb ever used "likely" NRA or "likely" CCW permit holder, but I am pretty sure they are closely related words with about the same meaning. So are you still claiming Greg is lying but MikeB is being 100% honest in his assertions?"
Syntax, Jim, syntax.
This:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
not this:
"Id she's a convicted drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
is what he wrote.
Greg Camp isn't saying that it's likely she's a drug dealer, he's saying that she IS a drug dealer. See the difference? If not, I'd suggest a course in remedial reading, stat!
Greggie:
"Mikeb, I am not a boy, nor am I Democommie's son. Given the new policy around here, I figured that such terms would not be allowed."
Whining to mikeb302000, again; but what else should we expect.
the word, "son" or, "boy", is equivalent to what? It's not an insult, dear, it's sarcasm.
"Democommie, how was my comment either stupid or a lie? Are you suggesting that people who deal drugs aren't likely to have a criminal record? That's an assessment of probability and a much higher probability than the person in question having a carry license."
Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back and re-read mikeb302000's original post to find the part where he said that the woman with the gun had a carry license, or a license of any kind. Gimme a moment...nope, you're full of shit on that one, too. Doubling down on one lie, by telling another with invented "facts" is no way to go through life, son.
Greggie:
"Do I know what the word, "lie" means. Why, yes, Greggie, I think I do.
This:
lie 1 [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly•ing.
noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object)
5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
So, according to that set of definitions I might cut you some slack if you had said:
"As a drug dealer, the sister is likely already prohibited from having a gun."
and, when notified as to the error, made a correction or retraction (neither of which you did) instead of being petulant, whiney and desirous of simply changing the subject/moving the goal posts? Well then you'd simply be WRONG. Being WRONG and knowing it, repeating the comment/refusing to retract it--that's lying, son.
Here's a thought experiment, genius. Try saying, "My comment was WRONG and I admit it", while looking in a mirror. Maybe after you've done that with yourself for a few days you can try it with others--I doubt it, but what the hell, give it a shot.
"Police say detectives, granted permission to search the room where the shooting occurred, found the gun, about 3 ½ pounds of marijuana and $3,000 in cash. Alicia Rhymes was booked with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute while in possession of a firearm."
ReplyDeleteI think the police are calling the woman in question a drug dealer.
"Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go back and re-read mikeb302000's original post to find the part where he said that the woman with the gun had a carry license, or a license of any kind. Gimme a moment...nope, you're full of shit on that one, too. Doubling down on one lie, by telling another with invented "facts" is no way to go through life, son."
Nowhere in his statement did Greg suggest MikeB referred to this woman as a permit holder. He simply stated that it is more likely that the woman in question is prohibited from owning a gun than it is that she has a license to carry a gun. You refute a point that Greg did not even try to make while ignoring his probablility statement. It is almost like you are dishonest in your arguements
Democommie - I just noticed that Mikeb also claims the person involved is a drug dealer. Of course I am assuming that when he says "Weed dealer" that he is using the slang word for marijuana. Mikeb - please correct me if I misinterpreted your title to the post.
ReplyDeleteAgain Demo - I will assume you have chastised Mikeb in private.