My comment:
The photo image seems to me a perfect amalgam of the fanatical gun-rights guy who also happens to be a religious nut. Unfortunately, they are legion, and particularly dangerous because they can justify the worst nonsense. Naturally, Robert offered his patented blah-blah-blah justifications which the readership just loved.
About the conversion of formerly anti-gun people by taking them to the shooting range, Robert offered this: “Within minutes, they realize that operating a gun appeals to both their lizard and their leftist—I mean rational mind.” I suppose that’s an example of making assertions which are not backed up by facts. But, I actually don’t mind that kind of thing.
The fact is, there are some, myself included, who went the other way. I have no way of knowing which type is more numerous, but for sure the ones like me offset to some degree those who are converted.
As to the reason why, the suggestion that “They discover that you can shoot a gun without turning into a spree killer,” is a silly oversimplification. In addition to this realization, they also experience the power and thrill of firing a weapon, they feel that particular and unique kind of exhiliration for the first time. They are empowered. Whatever feelings of powerlessness they may have had disappear, replaced immediately by the illusory fantasy of finally having the possibility of being safe and without fear.
These are the things that people find attractive. The more fearful and insecure one is, the more appealing these things are.
Since I write about media, there was pilot made for US TV that took this premise--take "anti-gun" people and take them shooting.
ReplyDeleteI know at least a couple of people enjoyed shooting the guns. One lady had never shot before, but did really well.
The problem was that the experience only confirmed that firearms were lethal weapons.
So, stay tuned for this programme showing on TV.
But, don;t hold your breath.
It's unrealistic to think that guns being "fun" will persuade people that the carnage they help create makes sense.
All the "pro-gun" victories are going to blow back as the Trevon Martin incident is proving to be.
You inform us that firearms are lethal weapons as though anyone here or anywhere else didn't know that--the obvious in terms of the histrionic, perhaps?
DeleteBut keep at it, Laci. We're winning, and there's nothing that you can do about that.
It's unrealistic to think that guns being "fun" will persuade people that the carnage they help create makes sense.
DeleteWhat absolute fear you must live in to think that everyone that picks up a firearm will turn into a raging spree killing homicidal maniac. With a phobia like that, I don't blame you for being scared of firearms and firearm owners.
"The problem was that the experience only confirmed that firearms were lethal weapons."
ReplyDeleteThat's not a "problem". Everyone should learn basic safety and that includes that guns can be lethal weapons.
I note you are once again stating blatant mistruths: That image isn't a photo....
ReplyDeleteOh; & cuns don't create carnage - criminals do & the best way to deal with an armed & rampaging criminal is to shoot him until he ceases to be a threat.
Pretty hard to do when almost all the good citizens have voluntarily disarmed themselves.
The more fearful & insecure one is, the more one demands that everyone else be reduced to the same level.
You're both irrational & unstable Mikey but you wont see any of us proponents of self reliance demanding someone takes your keyboard away to protect the illiterate.
You're right, but it was just a mistake. Post amended.
DeleteYou proponents of self reliance are a menace. You decrease the freedom of US citizens with your loony ideas.
But, I'm not suggesting we take away your guns. I'm only saying we should raise the bar a little bit about qualifications.
Raise the bar a bit? You're not fooling anyone other than Democommie on that.
Delete"What absolute fear you must live in to think that everyone that picks up a firearm will turn into a raging spree killing homicidal maniac."
ReplyDeleteWhat absolute horseshit Bill Baldwin spouts. As is usual with the gunzloonz he accuses someone of saying something that they simply didn't say. Greg Camp likes to do that too (no, Greggie, I haven't forgotten about that "drug dealer who prolly ain't s'posed to have a gun nohow, in N'awlins"). You're a bit smoother, but, sigh, a turd is still a turd, no matter how long you buff it.
"Oh; & cuns don't create carnage - criminals do & the best way to deal with an armed & rampaging criminal is to shoot him until he ceases to be a threat."
WOWIE ZOWIE!! We got us a reg'lar Dirty Harry, here. So, you're going on the same premise as Greg Camp and a few other knuckleheads that think they can know the state of mind and intent of a possible threat to the extent that they can not only prevent a crime from being committed but KILL the badperp at the same time. That whole pesky due process thing IS a terrible burden--to a weak mind.
Actually, the Mythbusters once showed that with enough dedication, you can put a good shine on a ball of lion shit. Why don't you get on that, Democommie?
DeleteWhat I recall about the Louisiana drug dealer discussion is that you got your ass handed to you repeatedly, but you never even noticed. Does it surprise me that you can't imagine someone being able to recognize an imminent threat of death? Not really.
demo said What absolute horseshit Bill Baldwin spouts. As is usual with the gunzloonz he accuses someone of saying something that they simply didn't say.
DeleteI didn't accuse Laci of saying anything, it was a copy/paste from his comment. My response was just an observation of what he said.
This:
ReplyDelete"It's unrealistic to think that guns being "fun" will persuade people that the carnage they help create makes sense."
is the cut'n'paste.
This:
"What absolute fear you must live in to think that everyone that picks up a firearm will turn into a raging spree killing homicidal maniac."
is histrionic handwringing on your part and has little or nothing to do with his actual words.
Greg Camp oozes:
'What I recall about the Louisiana drug dealer discussion is that you got your ass handed to you repeatedly, but you never even noticed.'
That would be because your memory is as faulty as your critical thinking skilz; go re-read the post and comments, hickokboy. You identified the woman as drug dealer, without any fucking substance to back up your assertion. You're fullashit on that one, but that's pretty much your m.o.
Democommie, the police identified the woman as a drug dealer. Even Mikeb called her that. So did the readers who commented on your absurd statements. But in your way of "thinking," I'm the one with reading comprehension problems.
DeleteDemo - you are directing your anger at the wrong person. Mikeb clearly identified the woman in question as a drug dealer in his post. Greg simply stated that it was likely (not absolutely) that a drug dealer would be prohibited from legally owning a gun. Now why are you continuing to lie by asserting that it was Greg who called this woman a drug dealer first?
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