Notice that Kerry said that individuals will be able to own firearms for "legitimate" purposes. That means lawful. All the government has to do is redefine the law, and goodbye private ownership. Colmes is spouting the gun control line, but this treaty is insidious. The good news is that it won't get sixty-seven votes in the Senate.
Redefining law is what our legal process is all about. Slavery used to be legal, now it's not. Abortion used to be illegal, now it's not. What you call redefining is simply the will of the people speaking, and that is the corner stone of government of, by, and for the people. You think we can run a 21st century country on 18th century law and succeed shows the stupidity of your thinking and disregard for the majority process. Should we wipe out law changes made since 1789? Those changes made for a better more inclusive society. You would have us still be a slave nation? Still treat women as second class citizens? You cannot stop progress; as much as your hillbilly toothless grin troglodyte dictatorial mind would like to.
So Jim, you want to abrogate the second amendment right of the people to keep and bear arms. According to you and your other friends, it's an outmoded right and should be abolished. Well, the rest of the rights are just as ancient as the second amendment, so I guess you want to abolish them too?
Just asking because without the second amendment, eventually, all those other rights you want to keep will be gone and you'll be asking...What happened?" and you will only have yourself to blame.
DUH, yes. if the people by majority amend, or eliminate that clause. That's how the process works. Your paranoia saying all other rights would be lost if you lost the 2nd amendment, is sheer extremists bullshit. We have the military to defend our country and our rights. How many times has the Constitution been amended since it was signed? How many clauses in the Constitution have been eliminated since it was signed? We gave up privacy rights just by passing the Patriot Act, no need to change the Constitution. The argument will soon be; is the 2nd amendment a danger to our national security because of the high numbers of deaths simply by having 150 million guns in public, is causing. A good point. How many deaths are acceptable before it becomes a matter of national security? 3,000 deaths were enough to go to war, and that's only 10% of the deaths caused by gun shot in one year. Thanks for lying, but I never said I wanted to "abrogate the 2nd amendment. Is that all you hillbillies can do is lie?
Mike is doing a bit of the old self-aggrandizing pretending when he says the 2A is what protects the other rights. That's why all the other developed countries have lost all their rights and are all tyrannical dictatorships now. They didn't have the 2A, poor bastards.
Yes, Greg, the citizens of the UK and Australia enjoy more freedom than you do. Plus, they don't have to worry about the next mass shooting because they don't fucking have them.
Ah, yes, so much more freedom in Britain where they can pass ex post facto laws, where their unwritten constitution doesn't provide as strict a protection of the 1st Amendment, where the police are less restricted, where people get in trouble for posting Bible verses in their businesses because it might offend someone, where a guy went to jail for turning in a shotgun he found rather than leaving it in the flowerbed and having the cops pick it up (possession charge even though they admitted he was telling the truth and just put it in a trash bag when he found it and carried it in to the station), where you soon will not be able to drink beer out of a glass glass, where a pipe store's owner has to step outside for a smoke break, where a guy who used his penknife to defend a shopkeep who was being beat with wine bottles was charged with assault with a deadly weapon, etc.
You live in the greatest country on Earth, where free men enjoy the protection of the Second Amendment. But, meanwhile, the Patriot Act has come and been re-upped. You have government warrant-less eavesdropping and indefinite detention of citizens.
And you're such a fucking hypocrite, you lament these things when you get on your Obama-hating soap box, but when convenient you claim England and Australia are worse.
Notice that Kerry said that individuals will be able to own firearms for "legitimate" purposes. That means lawful. All the government has to do is redefine the law, and goodbye private ownership. Colmes is spouting the gun control line, but this treaty is insidious. The good news is that it won't get sixty-seven votes in the Senate.
ReplyDelete"All the government has to do is redefine the law, and goodbye private ownership."
DeleteThat has always been the case. What does the UN Treaty have to do with it?
No, our constitution bars mere changing of the law. This treaty would be unconstitutional if ratified.
DeleteRedefining law is what our legal process is all about. Slavery used to be legal, now it's not. Abortion used to be illegal, now it's not. What you call redefining is simply the will of the people speaking, and that is the corner stone of government of, by, and for the people. You think we can run a 21st century country on 18th century law and succeed shows the stupidity of your thinking and disregard for the majority process. Should we wipe out law changes made since 1789? Those changes made for a better more inclusive society. You would have us still be a slave nation? Still treat women as second class citizens? You cannot stop progress; as much as your hillbilly toothless grin troglodyte dictatorial mind would like to.
ReplyDelete"your hillbilly toothless grin troglodyte dictatorial mind"
DeleteI wish I could come up with lines like that.
You mean you wish that you could come up with badly worded, non sequitur, ad hominem attacks?
DeleteOf course, bigots aren't known for being intelligent--guess your years of bigotry are sapping away your intellect.
So Jim, you want to abrogate the second amendment right of the people to keep and bear arms. According to you and your other friends, it's an outmoded right and should be abolished. Well, the rest of the rights are just as ancient as the second amendment, so I guess you want to abolish them too?
ReplyDeleteJust asking because without the second amendment, eventually, all those other rights you want to keep will be gone and you'll be asking...What happened?" and you will only have yourself to blame.
DUH, yes. if the people by majority amend, or eliminate that clause. That's how the process works. Your paranoia saying all other rights would be lost if you lost the 2nd amendment, is sheer extremists bullshit. We have the military to defend our country and our rights. How many times has the Constitution been amended since it was signed? How many clauses in the Constitution have been eliminated since it was signed? We gave up privacy rights just by passing the Patriot Act, no need to change the Constitution. The argument will soon be; is the 2nd amendment a danger to our national security because of the high numbers of deaths simply by having 150 million guns in public, is causing. A good point. How many deaths are acceptable before it becomes a matter of national security? 3,000 deaths were enough to go to war, and that's only 10% of the deaths caused by gun shot in one year. Thanks for lying, but I never said I wanted to "abrogate the 2nd amendment. Is that all you hillbillies can do is lie?
DeleteMike is doing a bit of the old self-aggrandizing pretending when he says the 2A is what protects the other rights. That's why all the other developed countries have lost all their rights and are all tyrannical dictatorships now. They didn't have the 2A, poor bastards.
DeleteJust like people are free in Britain, do you mean? Well, unless you're a reporter's partner trying to leave the country.
DeleteYes, Greg, the citizens of the UK and Australia enjoy more freedom than you do. Plus, they don't have to worry about the next mass shooting because they don't fucking have them.
DeleteAh, yes, so much more freedom in Britain where they can pass ex post facto laws, where their unwritten constitution doesn't provide as strict a protection of the 1st Amendment, where the police are less restricted, where people get in trouble for posting Bible verses in their businesses because it might offend someone, where a guy went to jail for turning in a shotgun he found rather than leaving it in the flowerbed and having the cops pick it up (possession charge even though they admitted he was telling the truth and just put it in a trash bag when he found it and carried it in to the station), where you soon will not be able to drink beer out of a glass glass, where a pipe store's owner has to step outside for a smoke break, where a guy who used his penknife to defend a shopkeep who was being beat with wine bottles was charged with assault with a deadly weapon, etc.
DeleteYou live in the greatest country on Earth, where free men enjoy the protection of the Second Amendment. But, meanwhile, the Patriot Act has come and been re-upped. You have government warrant-less eavesdropping and indefinite detention of citizens.
DeleteAnd you're such a fucking hypocrite, you lament these things when you get on your Obama-hating soap box, but when convenient you claim England and Australia are worse.