"If a blind person can manage to live a fully functional life absent their site, I see no reason to limit their right to bear arms."
Holy cow. The delusions are strong in this one.
Blindness is a disability. You are disabled simply by being blind. There is no chance one can live a fully functional life. Heck, poor eyesight is a disability. Even more so, many professions reject candidates for what is considered less than good eyesight.
The fantasy among gunloons is that an attacker will grapple with a person with disabilities and in the ensuing struggle, said disabled person will get a few shots off, centermass. Of course, reality shows it is often very difficult for even fully-abled persons to make such a distinction/
Imagine.
Let's say you're blind.
You hear a noise outside that doesn't sound right. Rex, your trusty dog, is going nuts.
"Who is it?"
Rex is still howling. No answer. You grab your weapon.
"WHO IS IT?"
No reply. You open fire.
Bottomline: You just killed the UPS guy bringing your Enzyte supply for the month.
Whats the matter Jadegold? Have you not ever seen the accomplishments of the blind? Is any disability in your mind make the person wholly dependent on another? I can see now from your post that you have a total and complete disability for critical thinking and reason. I guess that means you need to rely on someone else to do proper thinking for you.
ReplyDeleteUPS guy, what a laugh Jade. I am fully sighted yet I plan on things ahead of time. Like to know WHEN a delivery will be made. Even the blind can do the same. This tech now days make it possible for all kinds of things to help even the severely disabled accomplish much of the same as a normal person.
And I doubt that a UPS guy is going to break a door down to make a delivery, come on Jade, even a non critical thinker like yourself can do better than this? Please.
Its OK tho, its worth the laugh.
There is no chance a blind person can live a fully function life? Stevie Wonder and thousands of blind people, and me, suggest you go fuck yourself.
ReplyDeleteI think we're talking about the capacity for gun ownership and management. A fully functional life include the capacity to do that, which blind people do not have.
DeleteI will disagree with you Mike, instead of focusing in on the sight of a person, how about looking at the person instead. There are PLENTY of fully sighted people that have no business owning guns. You know, criminals, mentally disturbed, gangs and so forth.
DeleteA totally blind person can still use a firearm in defense but not in the same way that a "normal" person can. They will risk body contact with their aggressor and can still get harmed. And you would have to be completely stupid to not know the difference between a friendly hand shake and being attacked by a criminal aggressor.
Its far better than waiting for help and submitting to death or severe injury.
And I will say this too Mike, and if you were here, prove it to you. I can, completely blind folded and in pitch black darkness, unload and field strip, clean and reassemble, reload and charge EVERY firearm I have. If I can do it, a blind person can do the same.
As far as the capacity of a blind person to own and manage ANYTHING, what does sight have to do with it? I know a guy here that owns and manages a fleet of 60 over the road big rig trucks. He is not only blind, but completely blind. Pitch black, no sight what so ever from birth. Does he drive them, no. Does he know his trucks? Absolutely! And in every way, the sound, the feel of the ride and so on he knows his trucks. He knows them better than his drivers do. He doesn't just push paper or do the office work, he owns the business, the fleet, the works for over 30 years and very successful at that. Are you going to say the he doesn't have the capacity to do that either?
How about one armed people that fly planes.
People with no legs driving city bus.
People with no arms loading and shooting pistols with their feet,,,, oh wait, you covered that one.
Think man, THINK! There are ways for the blind to defend themselves with a pistol. Just not in the way you think. They are not sighted but the lack of sight does not preclude the possibility of gun ownership, management and use.
I am thinking, and what I'm coming up with is you are as stubbornly and blindly, forgive the pun, pro-gun as the other commenters who normally make you look reasonable by comparison. But in this case you're as unreasonable as they are.
DeleteBlind people cannot drive cars safely and they can't safely use firearms. This is so obvious that it defies reason that we even have to argue about it. But there it is.
Here you go again with the car comparison, something you chastise anyone else for doing. But there it is.
DeleteBut the blind using and owning guns is a completely different issue. In your opinion the blind cant use them. In reality they do and this is nothing new, not by a long shot. Opinions do not make facts Mike, not even yours.
But we allow the blind to own a car. Do you think we shouldn't? You said they shouldn't be allowed to even own a gun.
DeleteAnd yes, blind people can operate a car safely. They can do it in a large empty lot with a passenger. They are more limited in how they can safely operate a car, just as there are limitations to how they can operate a gun safely. I gave you examples in another post. Do you have a problem with my examples?
Keep talking guys. Fence-sitters are falling off by the thousands onto the gun control side of the argument. This Iowa blind law is the best thing to happen to the gun control movement since Ted Nugent.
DeleteYes, just like they were running to your side by the "thousands" in Colorado and were going to usher in a new dawn of gun control.
DeleteKeep saying you want to take legally owned property away from handicapped people. Keep equating vision imparement with judgement imparement and how they shouldn't even be allowed to keep an heirloom in a safe.
DeleteIs your point that UPS shouldn't hire deaf people?
ReplyDeleteorlin sellers
First, kudos to Jadegold for accepting my rude comment above. Secondly, every person has a disability in some area: some people can't draw, or make music, or do math, or tie knots, or have sex, or curl their tongue, or hear, or see colors.
ReplyDeleteExamine your assumptions. There is a mindset that historically has caused, and continues to cause, untold amounts of needless misery. This may seem hyperbolic, but those of us who struggle daily against these attitudes, take it personally.
a) there is some set of particular abilities a person must have to be a 'fully functioning' human being; b) to lack even one of that set is to be not fully human, a perspective that justifies locking up, abusing, or killing them, as we see today in Uganda and Russia; c) you personally are the arbiter of which abilities are or are not acceptable.
Given that 90% of those designated legally blind have some amount of vision, how much and what type of sight do you require of us? Was Helen Keller fully human? Stephen Hawking? Carey McWilliams?
An eye exam is part of my number 1 gun control law.
Delete"1. Licensing of all gun owners which would include a penal background check, a mental health background check, an eye exam, a written and practical test and approval by the local authorities."
I've been saying that long before this Iowa insanity came up.
Something's lit a fire under Jade and Laci. We aren't usually troubled by this many posts from them.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's the stupidity of the comment. Something you prove everyday.
DeleteThat's every day, and yes, of late I daily show the stupidity of Jade and Laci.
DeleteYour sarcasm only proves you are wrong.
DeleteYou have a strange belief about proof.
DeleteSarcasm? Where?
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