Antonio Varela’s statement has his brother attempting to kick Kelley, but only after Kelley had approached Juan while the latter was watering plants in the Varelas’ yard.
During the altercation, Kelley yelled, “You fucking Mexican, go back to Mexico!” And later, “If you don’t go back to Mexico, you’re going to die!”
Juan Varela admonished Kelley, saying, “Don’t come here and disrespect me at home. I have kids…I’ve lived here a long time. This country was Mexico before it was the U.S.”
Kelley and the Varelas faced off, with Juan attempting to kick Kelley and missing. Kelley asked Juan if he wanted to die, pulled up his shirt, pulled out a gun and pointed it at both men. Kelley then shot Juan Varela, and pointed his gun at Antonio.
"In Arizona, you can spout racial slurs and shoot unarmed brown people"
ReplyDeleteWell, shouting racial slurs may be protected under the First Amendment (not sure about that, actually), but shooting people unless it is in self defense certainly isn't legally allowed.
So what's your point?
...Orygunner...
"In Arizona, you can spout racial slurs and shoot unarmed brown people"
ReplyDeleteAnd face murder charges!
So a man kills someone and gets charged with murder and Arizona was wrong to do that? Is that what you are saying?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure, but I think the point is in a gun-lover paradise like Arizona, you have a certain amount of gun trouble like the incident in this story. The amount of that gun trouble is directly proportional to the level of gun availability and laxity of gun laws.
ReplyDelete"The amount of that gun trouble is directly proportional to the level of gun availability and laxity of gun laws."
ReplyDeleteWe assume you have a study to show this direct relationship?
@Baldr: "The amount of that gun trouble is directly proportional to the level of gun availability and laxity of gun laws."
ReplyDeleteYeah, let's see that direct proportion. Especially as there's seven countries in the world with a small fraction of the guns we have in the US and their firearm-related homicide rate of some of them is up to TWENTY times higher than ours.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_fir_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Lists-of-countries-by-gun-ownership
I know the data you're relying on and unfortunately, it's a "snapshot" of time which a) doesn't take into account enough other factors and b)doesn't show any change over time.
If there is really a direct proportional relationship, why is that when gun ownership rates go up (or down) there's no direct change in firearm-related crime rates to prove your suggestion? That would be the best proof, wouldn't it? Where is it?
...Orygunner...
Orygunner, You are a funny guy. That first link shows the US right in the middle of a list of some of the most corrupt 3rd world shitholes on the planet. You have to get to numbers 18 and 21 before you see the light.
ReplyDeleteIs this something to boast about, that Mexico and Zimbabwe are worse off than us?