Monday, February 13, 2012

Just One More Example

Here is just one more instance of WHY it is we don't believe you when you insist you are safe.  I would call your attention to the fact that he had a CCW permit!

Here is one more example of why we don't want you around us, armed and a danger to us, even when you don't understand or believe or recognize that you are such a danger.  Here is WHY we don't want people carrying, either open or concealed, without a serious and compelling NEED to do so, and why we don't want your guns in church, school, the post office, or any other public places.

You lot REFUSE to recognize or acknowledge just how many incidents like this occur, including being shot by your own DOGS while out hunting, and shooting yourselves. 

It is not surprising that this occurred in Florida.

From and the news services:

'Tragic accident': Pastor's daughter shot at Fla. church

Worshipper accidentally fires gun through wall staff and news service reports
updated 2/13/2012 3:22:22 AM ET 2012-02-13T08:22:22
You bozos are dangerous. WE have a right not to have our safety threatened by you and your firearms.YOU have no natural right, no god-given right, no human right to those firearms, or to endanger us on the pretext of self-defense.

A pastor's daughter was accidentally shot in the head at a church in St. Petersburg, police said.
The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office was called to the Grace Connection Church at about 12:24 p.m. Sunday.
Investigators told The Associated Press that Moises Zambrana was showing his gun in a small closet to another church member interested in buying a firearm. Zambrana reportedly took out the magazine of the Reuger 9mm weapon but did not know there was a bullet in the chamber.
'We're all praying for her' The gun went off and fired through a wall, striking 20-year-old Hannah Kelley. She was transported to Bayfront Medical Center to undergo surgery and remained in critical condition late Sunday.
WTSP quoted church member Tony Diehl as saying that there was "a big level of concern" for Kelley.
"We're all praying for her and, right now, I guess that's the best we can do," Diehl added.
Deputies said Zambrana has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
No charges have been filed.
Sheriff's office spokeswoman Cecilia Barreda told Tampa Bay Online that the incident appeared to be a "tragic accident."
The Associated Press and staff contributed to this report.


  1. We all know that any idiot can get a permit to carry in the US--just look at all the people who post comments here.

    Cue Greg...

    1. Why would you insult DG like that Laci?

  2. Laci, I do recall that you carried a gun at various points in your life.

    But Dog Gone is correct that we refuse to give up concealed carry just because a vanishingly tiny number of licensees screw up. Put the matter into perspective. How many people in all manner of fields make errors? How many physicians cause accidental death? How many lawyers commit malpractice? Compare the percentage of crimes and accidents by concealed carry license holders, and we look good. You claim to be driven by data, but you can't seem to understand percentages and comparative numbers.

  3. This man would be an example of a idiot an idiots are dangerous to everyone including them self's.

    firearms are not toys and should be-treated as dangerous. not fondle in a closest.

    like when a police officer shoot a new reporter or discharges his firearm in and apartment building or school.
    [all of which are true happenings]

    A firearm is a tool as such no different then a axe. used as a tool it's danger is minimum, when you start to play with it the danger grow.

    it remind me of a event that happened in New Hampshire a few years back,
    were a group of police officer were in a bank that was being built doing drills in which on officer shoots another.

    sounds strange; I think they were planing a bank job.

  4. This story illustrates what happens when someone fails to follow basic firearm safety protocol. We know that there are something like 500 unintentional firearm discharges leading to death every year. Law enforcement should prosecute the people involved with the appropriate criminal offenses in Florida. Based on what I read in the article, if I were on a jury I would be aggressively advocating to the rest of the jurors for a guilty conviction.

    I still say that firearms are not the problem. The root problem is a society with lots of people that are selfish and are totally lacking/failing in civic duty.

    1. "500 leading to death each year." Yes, that each and every year, plus let's throw in the less than lethal "accidents." Then let's also count, in order to be really correct about it, all the ones that don't result in death or injury only because no one was in the line of fire.

      Now we're talking about thousands of individualy who do this every year. With stricter standards for gun ownership some of them can be identified and removed from the picture.

  5. And by the way, it's currently illegal to carry in schools and the post office. Many states ban carry in churches as well. We're working to change all of those.

  6. You people just don't seem to be able to understand the idea that accidents happen. Over 40,000 deaths a year from licensed, registered vehicles. Accidents! A-C-C-I-D-E-N-T-S! Say it with me, ACCIDENTS!
    Orlin Sellers

    1. Orlin, you're right about the licensed and registered vehicles. If they were as unregulated as guns there'd be 100,000 deaths a year, or more.

      On the other hand, if guns were properly controlled, there'd be a thousand or two instead of 30,000.

  7. it appears he was a former cop.