Thursday, October 4, 2012

Ohio Concealed Carry Permit Holder Drops Gun Gets Shot in Ankle

Local news reports


Raymond S. Bodie, the owner of Bodie Electric, was carrying the firearm on top of a stack of papers when it slipped off, fell to the ground and discharged one round, said Fostoria police Captain Patrick Brooks.

The bullet went through Bodie's ankle and his injuries were not life-threatening, Brooks said. Although police responded to the business after receiving a report of the accident, Bodie was transported privately to ProMedica Fostoria Community Hospital before officers arrived at the scene.

Bodie has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, Brooks said.
How can that happen? First of all the gun defenders always tell us modern guns don't do that. Secondly, they tell us concealed carry guys are safer than your average gun owner.

What gives?

Please leave a comment.


10 comments:

  1. The answer to all your questions is "gunloons lie."

    As I've sagely noted previously, many gunloons don't have any training. Those that do may have received training from an "NRA certified" trainer but that training is quite likely to be useless as anyone can be "NRA certified." You just pay your money and you're qualified.

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    1. Baby Goblin, read this:

      http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/instructor.asp

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    2. It's a 16 hour training course with student participation and a test at the end. But don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

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    3. Oh and by the way, he shot himself because he pulled the trigger of a loaded gun pointed at his ankle. Then he lied about what happened.

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    4. Greggy: We all understand nobody fails any NRA course. Nobody.

      Further, we understand that all these "NRA certified trainers" conduct training without any oversight or refresher training. IOW, they're free to 'tailor' the course(s) to whatever they wish. If you go on the gunllon boards, you can see "NRA certified" trainers offering to conduct 2-day training courses in 4 hours or whatever is convenient for the customer.

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    5. We all understand? Baby Goblin, the voices in your head don't constitute a majority.

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    6. First of all, it's "certified instructors." Second, they're not free to tailor their courses. They must teach the curriculum. Report the instructor if you know of a violation. Third, NRA instructors are free to offer "4 hours or whatever" courses, but those are not NRA courses.

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  2. Mikeb, you consistently refuse to understand that one incident does not make a million incidents. Note that you have here one man with a concealed carry license. How many reports of that have you heard during this year? One or even ten or even fifty out of eight million? You really don't understand how numbers work.

    Second, did you see any mention the the kind of gun involved? The weapon could have been an antique for the all the information we get out of that story. You have no evidence that it was a "modern gun," nor is there enough to comment on the design of the firearm.

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  3. Greggy: WRT your claim the gun might be an antique---who cares?

    A firearm is to treated as a firearm whether the weapon is brand new or some antique that's 100 years old. Gun safety 101.


    Moreover, what you pointedly ignore is that this incident got reported because the NRA member sustained a fairly serious wounding. How many accidents are there that aren't reported because nobody got hurt or suffered only a minor wound?

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    1. Baby Goblin, Mikeb apparently cares what kind of gun it was. He brought up the question of whether a modern gun is "drop safe." I'm not defending carrying a gun on a stack of paper. That does sound silly to me.

      But where do you get the idea that the man in this story is an NRA member? There's no mention of that in the news article. I had a carry license for several years before I became a member. The two don't always go together.

      Beyond that, how many accidents aren't reported because no one got hurt? How should any of us know? They're not reported. Besides, if no one gets hurt, who cares?

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