First of all, why are so many of these gun-rights activists fat white men, no offense to FWM?
Secondly, I hope he engages a good lawyer because he's certainly lacking in the gift of gab department. I wouldn't recommend Bruce, but Ralph might do.
"First of all, why are so many of these gun-rights activists fat white men,"
Uh, you do realize that more than 35% of people in this country are obese? Many more than that are overweight. You can pretty much put anything in and say 'Why are so many xxxxx fat white men'? Look at your own blog authors! Why are so many of your blog authors fat white men MikeB?!?
I think the percentage of bloggers around here who are obese is much lower than the national average. And I think the number of gun owners who are, is much higher.
You think. You have nothing more than media portrayals and your intuition. When I go to gun stores and ranges, I see a cross section of America. You should come home and look around a bit.
I put this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zufg-sFtNXU) in a comment on your post from the other day, about that silly twin .45.
I just hope, for Andre's sake, that his bellyflop doesn't get in the way when he's throwin' down on one of them fantaperps which his sort likely see everywhere once they leave the house.
"Uh, you do realize that more than 35% of people in this country are obese? Many more than that are overweight. You can pretty much put anything in and say 'Why are so many xxxxx fat white men'?"
I don't know if Mikeb302000 was using information from here (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/SMI_AASR.shtml) when he came up with his "Famous 10%" list but just going on the average dispersal of whackiness in any population (though I think it tends to be a good deal more concentrated in the ranks of the conspiracy theory espousing gunzloonz) he's already got about 5%, or half the number he's using. So, fat, crazy and armed to the teeth may NOT be the way to go through life.
But, but, but...I thought the gunzloonz were happy when states used their "states right" mojo to do wtf they want to do? I'm sorry, it's just so confusing when this happens. I'm sure that CourtTVwannabe Greg Camp can explain all of this for us.
"1. Do I really have to explain why rights ennumerated in the Bill of Rights don't belong to the states? Is that so hard to understand?"
Um, jeez no, Counsellor Camp. You might TRY explainging however, why you don't WEAR YOUR FUCKING GUNZ TO CLAZZ at that school you work at. The 2nd Amendment don't say shit about that, now does it?
"You might TRY explainging however, why you don't WEAR YOUR FUCKING GUNZ TO CLAZZ"
You might try 'explainging' your total retardation in these posts. Are you stroking out? Did you hit the crack pipe before noon again? Or are you just that fucking stupid?
Democommie, I'll try to explain, even though I doubt that you'll understand. I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to have my gun rights taken away. Our government does things that it has no right to do, and we're working to change that, but I'll work within the system to make that change.
We have a fundamental, inalienable right to be secure in our persons. A citizen needs a coat at times to secure their bodies from the elements. Thus government cannot criminalize a citizen for possessing a coat regardless of the fact that a person could use that coat to smother or strangle someone.
Similarly, a citizen needs a handgun at times to secure their bodies from criminal elements. Thus government cannot criminalize a citizen for possessing a handgun regardless of the fact that a criminal could use a handgun to assault someone.
Of course governments go ahead and make laws criminalizing citizens who possess handguns anyway. The trouble is that they have no legitimate authority to do so. Additionally, there is a de facto ban on concealed carry for most citizens of California which the courts seem to uphold. Thus the only option left for a citizen is open carry. And now it goes to the courts.
The funny thing here, however, is that most people would prefer concealed carry as the option for citizens. If open carry is illegal, then the powers that are pushing (e.g. willing to sue) for concealed carry are almost guaranteed to prevail.
"We have a fundamental, inalienable right to be secure in our persons."
And mine is constantly and continuously violated by assholez wit teh gunz; assholez who make the world a much more dangerous place than it might otherwise be.
Democommie, you're still alive. I won't comment on that, but do explain to us how you have been harmed by my owning and carrying guns. Getting your undies in a wad isn't harm. Show me actual harm that you've suffered.
First, no one is continuously violating your right to be secure in your person. You were secure yesterday, you are secure today, and you will be secure tomorrow. In fact you will be secure up until the point a criminal attacks you. What happens after that is up to you. More importantly, armed citizens are not interfering with your options to secure yourself right now.
Second, while some criminal "assholez wit teh gunz" may choose to assault you with a firearm, citizens (such as myself) do not. Stop lumping in armed citizens with criminals. How many armed citizens with no previous criminal record suddenly snapped and assaulted you in the last 12 months? And let's take it one step further. How many armed citizens with no previous criminal record suddenly snapped and assaulted anyone in your state in the last 12 months? If the answer isn't a big fat zero, it will be so close as to be insignificant.
I just noticed that the shootist in the video is also a "belt and suspenders" sortaguy. In addition to the semi-automatic,notanautomaticpistolyougunzhatin'idiotz it appears that he also haz oneathem clip-on flick knives. Is that for field dressin' his killz?
"First of all, why are so many of these gun-rights activists fat white men,"
ReplyDeleteUh, you do realize that more than 35% of people in this country are obese? Many more than that are overweight. You can pretty much put anything in and say 'Why are so many xxxxx fat white men'? Look at your own blog authors! Why are so many of your blog authors fat white men MikeB?!?
I think the percentage of bloggers around here who are obese is much lower than the national average. And I think the number of gun owners who are, is much higher.
DeleteMy question was why.
You think. You have nothing more than media portrayals and your intuition. When I go to gun stores and ranges, I see a cross section of America. You should come home and look around a bit.
DeleteMikeb302000:
ReplyDeleteI put this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zufg-sFtNXU) in a comment on your post from the other day, about that silly twin .45.
I just hope, for Andre's sake, that his bellyflop doesn't get in the way when he's throwin' down on one of them fantaperps which his sort likely see everywhere once they leave the house.
"Uh, you do realize that more than 35% of people in this country are obese? Many more than that are overweight. You can pretty much put anything in and say 'Why are so many xxxxx fat white men'?"
I don't know if Mikeb302000 was using information from here (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/SMI_AASR.shtml) when he came up with his "Famous 10%" list but just going on the average dispersal of whackiness in any population (though I think it tends to be a good deal more concentrated in the ranks of the conspiracy theory espousing gunzloonz) he's already got about 5%, or half the number he's using. So, fat, crazy and armed to the teeth may NOT be the way to go through life.
thanks democommie, I plan to redo the Famous 10%, maybe you can help me.
DeleteBut, but, but...I thought the gunzloonz were happy when states used their "states right" mojo to do wtf they want to do? I'm sorry, it's just so confusing when this happens. I'm sure that CourtTVwannabe Greg Camp can explain all of this for us.
ReplyDelete"First of all, why are so many of these gun-rights activists fat white men, no offense to FWM?"
ReplyDeleteNone taken. But I am sure Dog Gone could come up with a reason based on racism.
1. Do I really have to explain why rights ennumerated in the Bill of Rights don't belong to the states? Is that so hard to understand?
ReplyDelete2. Armed to the teeth isn't fundamentally bad for a person's health. It's like alcohol. Used responsibly, it actually is better for you.
"1. Do I really have to explain why rights ennumerated in the Bill of Rights don't belong to the states? Is that so hard to understand?"
ReplyDeleteUm, jeez no, Counsellor Camp. You might TRY explainging however, why you don't WEAR YOUR FUCKING GUNZ TO CLAZZ at that school you work at. The 2nd Amendment don't say shit about that, now does it?
"You might TRY explainging however, why you don't WEAR YOUR FUCKING GUNZ TO CLAZZ"
DeleteYou might try 'explainging' your total retardation in these posts. Are you stroking out? Did you hit the crack pipe before noon again? Or are you just that fucking stupid?
Democommie, I'll try to explain, even though I doubt that you'll understand. I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to have my gun rights taken away. Our government does things that it has no right to do, and we're working to change that, but I'll work within the system to make that change.
DeleteWe have a fundamental, inalienable right to be secure in our persons. A citizen needs a coat at times to secure their bodies from the elements. Thus government cannot criminalize a citizen for possessing a coat regardless of the fact that a person could use that coat to smother or strangle someone.
ReplyDeleteSimilarly, a citizen needs a handgun at times to secure their bodies from criminal elements. Thus government cannot criminalize a citizen for possessing a handgun regardless of the fact that a criminal could use a handgun to assault someone.
Of course governments go ahead and make laws criminalizing citizens who possess handguns anyway. The trouble is that they have no legitimate authority to do so. Additionally, there is a de facto ban on concealed carry for most citizens of California which the courts seem to uphold. Thus the only option left for a citizen is open carry. And now it goes to the courts.
The funny thing here, however, is that most people would prefer concealed carry as the option for citizens. If open carry is illegal, then the powers that are pushing (e.g. willing to sue) for concealed carry are almost guaranteed to prevail.
Capn, sorry but who decides what the list includes, you? So far you've got coats and guns that cannot be infringed. What else?
DeleteAnything that doesn't cause actual harm to another is my right to do. Why can't you get that?
Delete"We have a fundamental, inalienable right to be secure in our persons."
ReplyDeleteAnd mine is constantly and continuously violated by assholez wit teh gunz; assholez who make the world a much more dangerous place than it might otherwise be.
Absolutely, democommie. I'm with ya 100%.
DeleteDemocommie, you're still alive. I won't comment on that, but do explain to us how you have been harmed by my owning and carrying guns. Getting your undies in a wad isn't harm. Show me actual harm that you've suffered.
DeleteTwo corrections demmocommie:
DeleteFirst, no one is continuously violating your right to be secure in your person. You were secure yesterday, you are secure today, and you will be secure tomorrow. In fact you will be secure up until the point a criminal attacks you. What happens after that is up to you. More importantly, armed citizens are not interfering with your options to secure yourself right now.
Second, while some criminal "assholez wit teh gunz" may choose to assault you with a firearm, citizens (such as myself) do not. Stop lumping in armed citizens with criminals. How many armed citizens with no previous criminal record suddenly snapped and assaulted you in the last 12 months? And let's take it one step further. How many armed citizens with no previous criminal record suddenly snapped and assaulted anyone in your state in the last 12 months? If the answer isn't a big fat zero, it will be so close as to be insignificant.
I just noticed that the shootist in the video is also a "belt and suspenders" sortaguy. In addition to the semi-automatic,notanautomaticpistolyougunzhatin'idiotz it appears that he also haz oneathem clip-on flick knives. Is that for field dressin' his killz?
ReplyDelete