How about a real life Granbo from Austria (that's the country in Europe, not the place in the South Pac-Indian Ocean Area--That's AustrALIA)?
A bank robber who was armed with a gun and a home-made bomb was thwarted by an 82 year Old Granny, Hertha Wallecker, ripped the thief's mask off his head and tore a bag
containing cash he had stolen out of his hand, shouting: "The money
belongs to the bank."
Now, if an 82 year old granny has the balls to do it WITHOUT A GUN--what's YOUR excuse for needing one?
1. Austria--you mean the country of origin for Gaston Glock, Kurt Waldheim, and Adolf Hitler? Also of Mozart, though it was under different political management at the time.
ReplyDelete2. Granbo? Really?
3. Good for granny. She did the right thing.
4. In America, our criminals tend to be more violent. There are lots of reasons for that. One may be that the robber in this case is sixty-two years old, according to the news article.
5. But Laci, do remind us, haven't you carried a gun? Something about being a member of the occupation army in Northern Ireland?
6. A gun is not the only way to win a fight, but it does improve the odds, particularly against multiple or violent attackers.
Laci correctly notes that using another gun on the robber would have only escalated the level of violence, where other BETTER solutions were available.
DeleteYou and our failed, UTTERLY MASSIVELY FAILED GUN CULTURE, keep opting for more, not less violence.
Our criminals tend to be more violent? What utter unsubustantiated bullshit. That is not true; what IS true is that we supply more legal guns to our criminals by not requiring background checks be done by people like YOU.
The ONLY thing that makes our culture more violent is guns; otherwise violence is the same problem world wide; we simply give it more lethality with guns.
Dog Gone, it's bullshit that our criminals are more violent? So I suppose in your view it's the guns. Those wicked guns that can act on their own without a person to direct them.
DeleteThere you go again with your false claim that I hand out guns to all and sundry. As I've told you before, I TRADED one rifle for another. But you are correct in one way. I want private sales to remain legal. You want to control everyone.
Also, you continue failing to understand that no matter what happens in Europe, in America, we have too many guns for your proposals to work. I'm glad about that, but more than that, as a purely practical matter, gun control can't happen here.
Not to let the truth get in the way of a good story, but the gun was a gas-powered "replica" and the robber was 62 years old. But rather than pointing the finger at gun owners, you should be looking at the failings of the 82-year olds in Chicago for not confronting the 22-year old gang members with real guns.
ReplyDeleteBut Tom, guns are the equalizer weapons of choice of the archetypal NRA member, who is male, old, white, crabby and flabby.
DeleteIn this case, where the person who sorted the situation without escalating the violence, it really wouldn't matter if the robber was 22 or 42 or 62, against a woman who was 82. By any metric there was a significant disparity in physical capacity.
It is curious that you procure such a absurd and improbable example to justify the mass violation of human rights. You seek to adorn the beliefs to which you espouse with any shred of factual evidence, no matter how improbable or rare a situation such as your "82 year old Granny" example may be.
Delete"mass violation of human rights" exaggerate much?
DeleteMikeb, you're on record as saying that half of all gun owners in this country are unfit. You want to take away their guns. That's 50,000,000 American citizens. Is that enough of a mass for you?
DeleteWow, Greg Campy has noted that Hitler came from Austria, invoking the Godwin principle of referencing Hitler.
ReplyDeleteIf we want to look at people with bad ideas that caught on too broadly, let's throw in Hayek to the mix. His disastrous ideas were differently bad, but still massively bad.
I didn't say that anyone's ideas were like Hitler's. I named a fact about Austria. Yes, bring in Hayek as well. Let's also note that Douglas Adams got the idea for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy while lying drunk in a field in Innsbruck.
DeleteHow's that Keynesian theory working out fer ya, DG?
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