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What do you think?I think that if you brandish a lethal weapon, such as a knife or baseball bat, at people prepared to meet deadly force with deadly force, you had best expect to face deadly force.Seems a pretty simple concept, really.
What do we take away from this? Don't brandish weapons at the police. Yep, you heard it here first, Kids.
Zorro has simplified it for us. "meet deadly force with deadly force."The problem is brandishing something or lunging with something is often not deadly force. I realize the cop is faced with a terrible dilemma because in some cases hesitation means he could end up dead. But there is too much erring on the side of caution. Some of them have gone way over the line and shoot first and sort it out later.That's wrong.
Isn't it ironic that people like Mikey claim that simply carrying a firearm openly in public is enough to put someone in fear of their lifeYet when a person waves or gestures with a knife -- why that is not a threat.
Anon:Isn't it ironic that people like Mikey claim that simply carrying a firearm openly in public is enough to put someone in fear of their lifeYet when a person waves or gestures with a knife -- why that is not a threat.Very astute point, Anon.
Zorro is calling something like that "astute?"It must be a slow day at the gun rights ranch.
Listen to all of you idiots!!! The man that was shot!! Was my cousin!! Everything you are all hearing is a bunch of crap!! He always would tell me."Cous!! You never take a knife to a Gun fight!! So tell me this!! How about?? The officer shouting out to him,Drop the Knife!! He turned?? And then the Cop shot him!!! The police are showing their teeth!! Saying they can do anything and get away with it!! Wake up people!! You have not heard the last about this case!! Seen by God`s Eye`s!!!
This information that is being released to the public about this man, Randy Lirenzo, branishing a knife! Isn`t all true!! They are leaving out that the gun hoe officer shot him 4 times!! I would call that, OVER KILL!!!! Get all your ducks in order before you comment on things that you haven`t got a clue on!! Sham on all of you!! Beleiving in everything you hear!! SHAME! SHAME!! SHAME!!!!
Hey, Anon, if you would use just a few more exclamation points, and use all caps for more of the words, maybe we could be positive that you really mean it ;-).
Cousin Anonymous, Thanks for the personal insight. I believe you. That was the point of my post.Good luck and if something interesting develops, please send me an e-mail.
Mike302000!! I will definately keep you informed about the out come of the Police investigation!! But I can tell you this! This investigation is just like sending a fox in the hen house to make sure things are alright!! I just pray that people today will start to open their eyes and not just beleive what the Police or the Government are telling all of us!! I pray this day will come soon!! COUS!!!!!
Mike 302000!! This is COUS!!! The cops are saying the shooting was justified?? Well who would of though different?? DUH!!! The officer shot 4 times and hit him 3!! All in the pelvic area!! His sister told the officer that responded to the call," I`ll go back there with you"!! And he said it wasn`t necessary!! The reason the cops were called in the first place was because he cut the exstention cord to her trailer, because she was a tweeker and wasn`t paying her rent for the weekend trailer she was staying in!! She was gone before my cousin`s sister got back from the morgue!! She`s my cousin too!!! The tenant was bringing around all these other drug user`s that were wondering all over the property at all hours of the wee morning`s!! Well enough for now!! I`ll keep you informed!! Stay Cool!! COUS!!
Thanks for the update. You're giving us a rare opportunity to hear things from a different perspective.
You're giving us a rare opportunity to hear things from a different perspective.A very excitable perspective ;-).
I was shot in the back (four times) on January 23,2009 by members of the Hayward Police Dept.. I was unarmed. I was subsequently beaten and thrown in jail on trumped up charges and sat in Alameda County jail for the next two years awaiting trial, released on January 21, 20011. I have an active 1983' Civil Rights Action, Federal Docket No. C 09-3996 SI(pr), against 23 members of that Dept. for their actions or inaction's in this blatant act of excessive force. You have no idea of the corruption in the city of Hayward. I have videos of the cops shooting and beating me. Email me for info.
Steven, Thanks for your story. I'm sure we'd love to know more. If you send it to me I'll make it a new post.