What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.A local man is in jail after police say he pulled a gun on his mother and another woman.
Reports state that Justin R. Deel, of 301 Greenway Drive, reportedly pulled a handgun and pointed it at his mother and another woman at the home.
Deel was arrested for one count of domestic aggravated assault, one count of aggravated assault and public intoxication.
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
Another Lawful Gun Owner and Possible Concealed Carry Permit Holder Does His Thing
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"...and Possible Concealed Carry Permit Holder..."
ReplyDeleteWow, why didn't you add NRA President and Dark Lord of The Sith. If you are going to just make shit up, go for the gold.
"Deel was arrested for one count of domestic aggravated assault, one count of aggravated assault and public intoxication."
ReplyDeletefrom the article mikeb302000 linked to.
No mention of a firearms violation. It is TN, of course, where hazzin' teh gunz is pretty much a requirement for all of the upstanding citizens like Curry Todd--the fuckhead in the TN who sponsored the CCW in bars law and then got himself popped for DWI with a weapon in his car--, who KNOW how to handle teh gunz.
Turns out, btw, that Todd is a board member of ALEC.
No, I think that this man worked for the United Nations. We have no proof that he doesn't, after all.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't work, Greg. The chances that this guy worked for the UN are nothing compared the che chances that he has a CCW permit.
DeleteBesides, I'm just fuckin' with ya. Lighten up will ya?
It's hard to lighten up when my rights are at stake. That being said, I have tried to maintain a sense of humor around here.
DeleteThat's true you have. Like that time you recommended the Boondock Saints to me. I hated it and wondered how anybody could even get through it.
DeleteSo, Mikeb, not going to explain why you keep saying things like "possible concealed carry permit holder"? As we've pointed out to you repeatedly, you have no reason to ask that question, any more than you have reason to wonder a thousand other things about this man. This is a shabby technique, trying to create a bad reputation for license holders with not the slightest bit of evidence to support your veiled assertions.
ReplyDeleteGreg, you one of the ones who keep telling me how many concealed carry guys there are. You do that when it suits your argument that they're mainly law-abiding, but in this case you won't admit that there's some, maybe a good chance that he has a carry license.
DeleteGiven his behavior, there's a probability that he has a criminal record. I know that Tennessee runs a background check, since I got my first carry license in that state. I know that Tennessee also requires good training for the same reason.
DeleteI see it as a smear tactic when you ask whether the obvious bad actor had a carry license. You have no evidence that he did. What you're doing is trying to create an association in the minds of your readers between criminals and license holders. We've pointed to plenty of evidence that this is not the case--many fewer than one percent of license holders commit crimes with handguns or even commit crimes in general--but you keep pushing the idea.
Greg Camp:
ReplyDelete" As we've pointed out to you repeatedly, you have no reason to ask that question, any more than you have reason to wonder a thousand other things about this man."
Actually, fuckhead, he does have a reason for asking that question. TN has very lax gunzlawz and getting a CCW permit is not all that difficult. When moronz like you are allowed to have dangerous vigilante fantasies AND teh gunz, well, we can see that won't end well.
Lax gun laws? Carry isn't allowed without a license. That license requires a background check and training. How is that lax?
DeleteIt doesn't require anything in Arizona. I suppose it could be said that old Jared was legally exercising his right to concealed carry.
DeleteCan you show me where in Arizona's law permission is given for carrying a handgun with the intention of committing murder? In addition, can you show me a law that will stop a criminal with a handgun from carrying that gun? And before you try to get around it, can you show me a law that will prevent criminals from getting guns?
DeleteNow, now, now, Greg. Even Jared was innocent until proven guilty. In fact a half hour before the fun began, he was carrying legally, was he not?
DeleteAs an average across the entire U.S. about 1 in 20 adults have a concealed handgun carry license. Thus overall there is about a 5% chance the man in this article had a concealed handgun carry license. If he did have one, he will lose it and won't get it back. A 5% chance of something is hardly a basis to state "... possibly concealed carry permit holder" in the title. There is a far greater probability that he was receiving some form of public assistance. Should we demonize people who receive public assistance?
ReplyDeleteThe anti's must be feeling that they are losing ground when they have to resort to deliberate deception.
This just in: Justin Deel, possible member of the Basque separatists party, does not have a pipefitter's license.
ReplyDeleteSo, mikeb302000's comment should have read:
ReplyDelete"Another Lawful Gun Owner and Barely Possible Concealed Carry Permit Holder Does His Thing."?
Back of the envelope calculations indicate that about 37% of all Tennesseeans are white males or about 2.37M (according to the latest available census figires). There have been, according to this site (http://www.tn.gov/safety/handgunmain.shtml), about 340,000 handgun permits issuedc in TN. Assuming 10% are for people who no longer live, anywhere, and that another 10% are for women that leaves about 266,000 permits in use by men.
I'm gonna go way out on a limb and suggest that non-white men make up a few % of that number. So, let's take off another 5%, leaving us with 252,700. So, Cap'n Crunch's estimate of 1 in 20 is, well, wrong. Now I'm only talkin' bout white menfolks, here. If in fact, Mr. Deel is non-white, then the chances of him having a CCW permit are prolly about 1 in 50 or less.
I got my first carry license in Tennessee. If memory serves, the distribution of the students in my class was not too far off that of the general population. There were under twenty of us, so one or two here or there would skew the numbers, but I recall several black men and several women.
DeleteBut based on your link, carry license holders represent about five percent of the population of Tennessee (6,400,000), plus or minus a bit. On that alone, the chances that Deel has a license is one in twenty. Given his behavior, I doubt that they're even that high. Your yammering about race doesn't change the figures, other than to make it even less likely that he has a license.
demmocommie,
DeleteI think your more refined estimate might actually be pretty accurate. So instead of a 1 in 20 chance, it is about a 1 in 10 chance which is 10%.
Please note that I did qualify my estimate as a general number averaged across the entire population.
Capn CrunchMar 29, 2012 01:27 PM
ReplyDeletedemmocommie,
I think your more refined estimate might actually be pretty accurate. So instead of a 1 in 20 chance, it is about a 1 in 10 chance which is 10%.
Please note that I did qualify my estimate as a general number averaged across the entire population.
Don't ask the unwashed hippie to take notes, you know that they are running out of supplies in the media room at the home for old smelly Marxists......