via Think Progress
Rifle Association has a new item in its online store: hoodies, with a special pocket designed to conceal a handgun. Hooded sweatshirts have taken on new meaning in the last week as a symbol for Trayvon Martin, who was shot and killed while wearing one last month. Last week, Geraldo Rivera speculated that it was Trayvon’s hoodie that was to blame for his death, sparking widespread criticism. “We want concealed carry to fit around your lifestyle — not the other way around. That’s why we developed the NRAstore exclusive Concealed Carry Hooded Sweatshirt,” reads the product description. If enough people buy them, Rivera may be right to assume some hoodies can be dangerous.
"Rifle Association has a new item in its online store: hoodies, with a special pocket designed to conceal a handgun."
ReplyDeleteNo, not a new item. The NRA has been selling those for years.
Was there no change at all to the NRA site in order to sell these things now? I doubt it.
DeleteLike what? Like moving it to the top row so you don't have to scroll down to see it? Or running a special? or calling it a "best seller"? None of those things are true, so what change do you think they made to capitalize on the Martin death? Flesh it out for us.
Delete"Was there no change at all to the NRA site in order to sell these things now? I doubt it."
DeleteYour question doesn't even make sense. Try rephrasing it and I'll attempt to answer.
I was thinking they might heve moved it to the top or put it on the front page.
DeleteNo big deal, don't get upset about it. We already know they're a mercenary organization that doesn't even represent the feelings of its members.
Distinguish the NRA from a labor union or from the NAACP. The difference, likely, is that you don't like what the NRA advocates.
DeleteMike: "I was thinking they might heve moved it to the top or put it on the front page."
DeleteSo you "thought" that, but didn't bother to check before implying it?
Mikeb302000:
ReplyDeleteDude, it's about hunting. What better way to go into a target rich environment than by camoflaging oneself as one of your targets. What's next a PerpCall?
I wonder if Zimmerman owns oneathem hoodies for teh gunz?
Mikeb, think about how long it takes a product to go from conception to approval to manufacture to sale. This has nothing to do with Martin. Sweatshirts with hoods are a style right now. This is the error of the single-issue activist: making everything about one's personal gripe.
ReplyDelete"Sweatshirts with hoods are a style right now. This is the error of the single-issue activist: making everything about one's personal gripe."
ReplyDeleteWhooooooooooooooooooooosh! Another point goes right after the genius Greg Camp's head.
I think what the post illustrates is that Geraldo Rivera's racism notwithstanding, hoodies ARE an item of apparel favored by people other than blackteenoperps. Would you do better with pictographs, instead of words?
Agreed. So your blame rest solely on Rivera and not the NRA for simply selling sweatshirts, right?
DeleteDemocommie, the point here is that the NRA has been selling these for a while now. I don't know what their sales figures are, but do you seriously believe that they should remove a product just because of this incident? Should General Motors stop selling cars every time there's a wreck?
DeleteI have received offers for those for a number of years. Hardly "new".
ReplyDeleteAnd yet they market it as a "new" item. They may have sold other hoodies in the past, but it seems in bad taste to offer one now, particularly a new one.
ReplyDeleteMy post on this: http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2012/03/its-just-hooded-sweatshirt-right.html
B.O., please show me where on the NRA's site these sweatshirts are identified as new. It was "developed" as an "exclusive" product for that organization's store, but not in response to this case. Do you really believe that such an item could be created, manufactured, and marketed in less than a month? You've had others here tell you that they saw ads for it a while ago. And why, exactly, is it in bad taste? It's a sweatshirt with a hood. That's not a trademark product of one group or individual, despite its cultural associations. If you're going to label this as bad taste, am I not equally justified in labelling the attempts by your side to turn a hoodie into a political statement as bad taste?
Delete"They may have sold other hoodies in the past, but it seems in bad taste to offer one now, particularly a new one."
DeleteYou are correct Baldr. That is why those ghouls at CSGV should be stopped now.
http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/CSGV-Hoodie.jpg
Incidentally, unlike the NRA hoodie, the CSGV hoodies are "NEW".
So, are you going to keep up the normal anti-gun crowd practice of epic hypocrisy? Or are you going to condemn the CSGV product as you have the NRA's?
Baldr, I am not going to bother reading your post that you have linked to. I don't see the point since no one can discuss it on your blog.
DeleteGreg, here is the link to the NRAstore ad for the item. Notice the "NEW" tag in bright red: http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?p=CO+635&ct=e
DeleteGreg and FWM: I'm not opposed to someone selling a hoodie. What *obviously* makes the NRA version so reprehensible is that it combines the style with a way to conceal a gun. Like it or not, it IS marketed as a new item, and whether it is coincidence or not, it is in bad taste to do so now in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting, where the boy was targeted because of the shooter's stereotyping of him due to race and clothing, and then shot the boy to death with a concealed handgun, where the shooter justified his actions based on an NRA-sponsored "shoot first" law. These parallels are obvious to anyone who doesn't have NRA blinders on, as you clearly do.
DeleteBaldr and Odin, save me from fools!
DeleteTo the blogger who steals their names, the "new" in the link that you provided looks to refer to a color. The hoodie was offered in black; now it's also available in blue. Perhaps they're appealing to the bruised crowd.
But how do you know that Zimmerman targeted Martin because of his race? Were you on the scene? Do you know Zimmerman personally? What's your evidence?
In addition, what's reprehensible about making a hoodie that can conceal a gun? It wasn't made in response to the incident in question. Of course, given your statements, I know that you oppose carrying handguns altogether, so any article of clothing or holster that making carrying easier would be reprehensible to you.
Thanks Baldr for showing these guys how wrong they were. Don't expect any admissions or acquiescence. True gun-rights advocates never back down, ever.
DeleteWhere did he do that? At no point have either of you shown us that this item was offered in response to the shooting or has anything to do with the shooting in Florida.
DeleteGreg, you must have missed this comment.
Delete"Greg, here is the link to the NRAstore ad for the item. Notice the "NEW" tag in bright red: http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?p=CO+635&ct=e"
Mikeb, look at the comment above. I addressed that question.
DeleteI've know that seen those in the nra store for at least a couple of years..it's not a new item.
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