What do you think? Should the governor have gone with his first instinct and vetoed it? Do you think the instances of police entering one's home with the intention of committing murder are sufficient to warrant this nonsense? Do you think this law will lead to the kinds of things we've had with the "stand your ground" laws, unnecessary killings and people getting away with murder?The new law reverses a state Supreme Court ruling that homeowners do not have the right to use force against law enforcement officials who they believe are illegally entering their homes. According to the Evansville Courier Press, an Evansville resident fought a police officer who followed him into his house during a domestic dispute call. “The state Supreme Court found that officers sometimes enter homes without warrants for reasons protected by the law, such as pursuing suspects or preventing the destruction of evidence. In these situations, we find it unwise to allow a homeowner to adjudge the legality of police conduct in the heat of the moment,” the court said. “As we decline to recognize a right to resist unlawful police entry into a home, we decline to recognize a right to batter a police officer as a part of that resistance.”
But Governor Daniels is merely attempting to put political spin on a bad bill. Indeed, Daniels admits that he nearly vetoed it precisely because the bill could be grossly misinterpreted and could lead to killings of police and citizens. This law is basically a loophole for citizens to kill police officers and claim self-defense. There are many people out there who think no police officers have the right to enter homes or property, even if there is a warrant.
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Mikeb, this is an illustration of what happens when restraint on government power weakens. We've tolerated all manner of foolishness in the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, and the citizens are tired of it.
ReplyDelete"We've tolerated all manner of foolishness in the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, and the citizens are tired of it."
ReplyDeleteYeah, we are. We're also tired of assholez wit teh gunz (that would be you and your gunzloonz palz) strutting around acting like men, 'cuz they haz teh gunz.
The most likely outcome of everybody insisting on having a right to shoot cops who "invade" their space is much more violent "invasions" and cops simply putting down anybody who approaches them with a visible weapon in such circumstances. But that will be okay with you guyz, more "watering of the tree of liberty" 'n all that.
Look, I think that in all reality every american citizen should have the absolute right that if some jackass in the night comes kicking your door in because they want your shit they deserve whatever the hell happens to them. If a cop needs access, they should knock, or hell pick the lock how difficult is that?! rather than kick in the door, rifle through your shit and then realize their "probable cause" has led them into the home of a law abiding citizen who think's that they're a burglar... It happened to a friend of mine and thank the gods neither he nor the cop could shoot worth a damn... the cop fired first, he shot back... the cop then realized he'd never shouted "POLICE" when he came in, he decided to do it then, my buddy hit the deck and unloaded and tossed his gun, the cop picked him up, apologized and filed the paperwork later. He was a good cop, just a little headstrong. I understand shit happens and everyone makes mistakes, but calling this the "cop killer law" is BS. It's not just about cops, its giving anyone in indiana back their right to defend themselves IN THEIR OWN HOMES against illegal breaking and entering, which no one has the right to do badge or no. I think more of these laws need to be passed in other states, like VA, just reworded a bit. "that any person, entering in an illegal fashion, the domicile of an American Citizen, may be defended against by any citizen residing in that home for the protection of the Life, and Property of all those therein" there you go politicians straight from a US Citizen's mouth to your ear, GET WRITING
ReplyDeleteKaroi VulkJune 16, 2012 1:39 PM
ReplyDeleteLook, I think that in all reality every american citizen should have the absolute right that if some jackass in the night comes kicking your door in because they want your shit they deserve whatever the hell happens to them.
And if the cops, or fire department believe they are kicking in the door to save a life? Knock first? Maybe get shot through the door by one of the Stand Your Ground murderers? (yes, they do that)
What you advocate Karoi is vigilantism; it is the opposite of rule of law where if someone does something wrong they are arrested and prosecuted, and an appropriate result that is justice is applied, not some highly emotionally driven over -reaction.
You demonstrate perfectly why this kind of legislation leads to lawless behavior rather than lawful, civlized justice-based conduct.
You demonstrate everything that is wrong with the gun culture and its foundational beliefs.
Our law enforcement and firefighters and other similiar civil servants should have more protection under the law than that. This is shameful, and no one who ascribes to it can genuinely be said to honor the sacrifice and risks that these people take to serve our comunities.