Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Commenting Policy

I've put the comment moderation back on because I've decided to clean up the dialogue on the blog a little bit. No more name-calling or personal attacks are allowed. Opinions, theories, unsupported assertions, all manner of nonsense, as well as statistics and surveys are all welcome.

I'll enforce that like I used to, which is to say not strictly, but as a general guideline, and of course I'm the judge.

I thank everyone who participates here and I hope you don't feel too inconvenienced.

30 comments:

  1. I am going to miss all of Democommie's posts.

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  2. Interesting that you didn't identify the worst offenders. I wonder why that is?

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  3. "I am going to miss all of Democommie's posts."

    No, you're not, moron.

    mikeb302000 will, since it's his blog, be the final word on what does or doesn't get past the moderation phase.

    I would be perfectly fine if he insisted on two other conditions for allowing comments.

    The first would be not allowing anonymous comments. I would go a step further, considering the number of sockpuppets that frequent this blog. I would require that they sign in. If that's too much trouble, tough shit.

    The other would be having an idiot like Mr. Greg Camp provide something to back his endless unjustified (and largely unjustifiable) assertions. He tends to lie, quite often, and when his lies are brought to his attention, he doubles down. Assertions without anything to back them are nothing but opinions. We are all entitled to form our own opinions--Greg Camp wants to be entitled to form his own facts.

    mikeb302000 is probably not going to do either of those things as he likes a free flow of ideas (though I'm fairly certain that there are not a lot of "ideas" coming from folks like Greg Camp and Orlin Sellers.

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    1. I started posting as Anonymous because I was being harassed by Laci every single time I would post something, regardless of content. The same thing posted as Anonymous, not a word. I think the fact that so many people are posting as anonymous says more about your cobloggers and the climate of discontent that has been formed around here more than anything else.

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  4. By turning moderation back on, the commenters never know what makes it through the filter and what the blog owner just doesn't want to hear. Why don't you just moderate after the fact and delete messages that you don't feel fit your policy? That at least allows for some transparency and posters don't feel like they are deceived.

    In my opinion, you've taken a step backwards again.

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    1. I'll take off the comment moderation when things settle down. That means when I see that I'm approving comments and not finding any to delete, or very few, I'll make that change.

      If you've been coming around here for a while, you should know I don't delete things for any other reason that what I say.

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    2. All right, let us know when that is. You'll probably see a lot of us spending more time at alternative sites like The Truth About Guns. They seem to have about the right balance of moderation.

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  5. I don't object too much, so long as the policy is applied evenly, but look at Democommie's post above. Moron, idiot, and liar are hardly following the new rules. Is there a may issue exception?

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    1. My thoughts exactly. In his first comment, demo is already calling people names. Granted it was pretty mild compared to Demo's usual profanity filled rants, but it broke the letter of the rule anyway. I expect we will see a double standard applied to Laci, Dog Gone, and Demo as they are "cobloggers" here. Their vile hate filled rants will all be posted and anything bad posted by the gun rights advocates will be deleted. Of course this is Mike's blog and he is free to do what he wants with it, I just hope he realizes the hypocrisy that will follow.

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    2. When I read this I was happy that I wouldn't have to try and sift through the commie's abusive responses..Then I saw his comment above..*sigh*

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    3. We'll get there guys. Be patient.

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    4. Many of us have been patient. Compare the abuse, veiled threats, and foul language coming from Laci and Democommie to our comments, and tell us who has been patient and polite.

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    5. I meant be patient about the comment moderation.

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    6. But Mikeb, we have been patient with that policy. We've been through strict moderation, then open comments, and now, gentle moderation--something of a Massachusetts to Florida to Connecticut license policy, if you follow me. But to continue the metaphor, the celebrities around here get to say what they want, even when it's in obvious violation, even when it's abusive and makes no contribution to the discussion.

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  6. Mikeb, obviously you can run this pop stand anyway you like, but I don't care for the moderation.
    One question though: How in the hell did Democulo's post make it through your moderation?
    I have a theory, tell me if I'm right. People in padded cells are allowed to say whatever they want?
    orlin sellers

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  7. "started posting as Anonymous because I was being harassed by Laci every single time I would post something, regardless of content."

    and now that he's been gone, pretty much, for about a month you feel the need to hide, still?

    "think the fact that so many people are posting as anonymous says more about your cobloggers and the climate of discontent that has been formed around here more than anything else."

    Actually, it says the same thing it's always said, you're cowards who aren't willing to say stupid things and be pointed and laughed at.

    "I don't object too much, so long as the policy is applied evenly, but look at Democommie's post above. Moron, idiot, and liar are hardly following the new rules. Is there a may issue exception?"

    Oh, I see, now that poor, dear, sensitive Professor Camp will be able to lie with impunity (and without being called what he is) he's ready to try out his s(w)hiny new whaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance. Actually Greg Camp reminds me of a lot of KKKristianists I've dealt with over the years who can happily talk about people burning in hell, but can't bear to hear the word, "fuck". Hypocrites, iow.

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    1. Laci just put up a post on Saturday. You are as slow as you are ugly.

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    2. Democommie, I've already shown you have you've falsely accused me of lying, but you won't admit your error. You don't seem to know what a lie is. But just because I favor rational and civilized discussion over cursing and ranting doesn't mean that I'm "sensitive." It means that I don't sink to your level.

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    3. Wow two posts by Demo and both break the non name calling rule.. You are on a roll with the moderation Mike.

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  8. You're well intentioned Mike, but they're not going to play nice. It is a vain exercise.

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    1. Control of the message gets turned back on, and look who's magically back!

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    2. You're back? Please do look at the comments here with an objective view. You may not agree with what I've said, and you may question my assertions and beliefs, but you will see, I hope, that I've tried to maintain an attitude of civility, despite receiving none in return from several of you.

      But I note that you've been hanging out over at Common Gunsense. It's more comforting to be a part of the in crowd, I suppose.

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    3. "But I note that you've been hanging out over at Common Gunsense."

      Of course she has. Moderation is in full effect at Common Gunsense. Anything that Japete does not agree with does not get published. Dog Gone is certainly in her element over there.

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  9. "Democommie, I've already shown you have you've falsely accused me of lying, but you won't admit your error."

    Another LIE. Jeezpeezyprettyopleezy Gregzy, do go find that "proof" that you're not a LIAR and put it on this comment thread.

    "But just because I favor rational and civilized discussion (and a lotta pinocchio style whoppers) over cursing and ranting..."

    sorry, that needed an edit.

    Oh, Greg, I may swoon with the way you're insulting ME and MY style of writing--which, I have to admit, I pretty much reserve for use when dealing with knucklehedz like you--

    It's nice to see that the same guyz who complain about me only cursing and ranting come here to whine like the curs that they are, now that they think they've "won". Sorry, boyz (and I do mean, "boyz") but your arguments are just as empty and your bluster just as unconvincing as it has been.

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    1. Democommie, if you can demonstrate that I've lied, I will leave and never return. You'll have to show that I made a statement that I knew to be false. That's what a lie is. A lie is not an opinion that you disagree with. A lie is not an interpretation that you don't share.

      My comments here have been my opinions, my interpretations, my values, and the facts that I know. I can't promise never to have made a comment in error, but I have never intentionally made a statement that I knew to be false. I invite you to show otherwise or shut up.

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  10. "Why don't you just moderate after the fact and delete messages that you don't feel fit your policy? That at least allows for some transparency and posters don't feel like they are deceived."

    So that you and your gunzloonzpalz can say things that are untrue or put personal information about other people on the blog? Gosh, that's just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nasty of mikeb302000.

    Orlin Sellers sez:

    "One question though: How in the hell did Democulo's post make it through your moderation?"

    This is coming from a guy a who thinks he's clever, attaching the Italian slang for "ass" to my sweet, sweet blognomen (try a little harder, Orlin, honey; it's not clever when it's all you've got to work with).

    Well, actually, Orlin Sellers, mikeb302000 didn't "let it through". He allows me to post here, my comments--until he decides otherwise--are not moderated.

    But, typical of you and your gunzloonzpalz, you come here to complain about others while employing the use of insults yourself. Just can't win for losin', can ya, bub?

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  11. "Well, actually, Orlin Sellers, mikeb302000 didn't "let it through". He allows me to post here, my comments--until he decides otherwise--are not moderated."

    Is this true, mikeb?

    Does democommie get a free pass on your moderation queue?

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  12. It's not a "free pass", bozo, it's a privilege. Mikeb302000 can revoke it and for all I know he may do so. I'm not inclined to be polite to people who lie and whine about being called liars--regardless the language employed. You gunzloonz are really starting to sound like tonetrollz, but that would be your problem, not mine.

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    1. I'm still waiting for you to show me that I've lied.

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  13. Why are you filled with so much hate, democommie?

    What's your story?

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