What they fear the most is a group of three or four highly armed and professional commando-types invading the home in the middle of the night intent on rape and murder.
Me, I don't need no steenkeen gunz! I just arm the claymores and make sure that the trapdoor "Welcome" mat, over the punji stakes-- slimed with human excrement--is set on it's hair trigger then I barricade myself in my Kevlar reinforced bedroom and turn the wolverines loose to patrol the house while their grizzly counerparts do the same thing outside.
Mikeb, you don't watch TV much, do you. That's typical of any commercial for anything. Create an emotional need, then offer a product that will answer it. But you should be celebrating this ad. It sells safe storage equipment.
Mike- Can't speak for anyone else, but personally, my biggest fear is actually having to use my gun in self defense. Not all gun owners want the opportunity to take a life.
Mike- No I have not considered getting rid of my guns. I like having them for all sorts of different purposes. Especially target shooting. But, taking a Human life is not one of the purposes. It is definitely one thing I hope I am never forced into..................
I hope the same thing, Mikeb, both for myself and for every gun owner with regard to having to shoot another human being. I'm not out there seeking for targets. I just refuse to be a quiet victim.
While MikeB's hypothetical scenario is possible (three or four commando criminals busting into your home in the middle of the night), fortunately it doesn't happen very often. What is typical is one or two criminals trying to sneak in in the middle of the night. And it actually happens.
Once a home invader breaches a door or window, the invader could easily enter the homeowner's bedroom within 30 seconds. There is no way that a homeowner could arouse from sleep, pick up a telephone, dial 911, wait for a dispatcher to answer, and then communicate the situation with the 911 dispatcher that fast. And it would take several minutes for any law enforcement officers to arrive after that. Then it would still more time for multiple units to arrive, get into position, and then actually enter and start clearing the home.
Like it or not, if you awaken to the sounds of a home invader in your home, you have just a few seconds to get ready to defend yourself. The handgun safe that is the subject of this article looks like a good solution. It enables quick access and yet it would keep a handgun out of the hands of any children or visitors in the home. What's not to like?
This is a prime example where I think the death penalty is appropriate. The criminal rapes a 38 year old woman and her 10 year old daughter and then kills them with a hammer. Then he beats the father almost to death with the hammer -- and the father will probably not ever recover fully. The criminal's DNA is on the mother. There is no doubt the criminal did it. There is no doubt this was especially cruel and heinous.
I do not want one cent of my tax dollars going to provide food and shelter for the monster that did this. That takes away money that we could use to help people who really need it ... like children whose parents died at the hands of a criminal monster.
They're not all recent events plus they're not all US stories. Other than that I get your point. You're saying that home invasions do happen and that gun ownership is useful in some cases.
Am I right?
Now, tell us how that argument hold up when you use your own argument to us against it? How likely is something like that to happen to YOU? If you eliminate the incidents in other countries and those that happened years ago, how do they compare to the "accidents" and the mis-use of guns that took place yesterday?
Finally, tell us how many times you yourself have had to use a gun to save the day.
Mikeb, you posted an article about a gun accident in New Zealand, but only American defensive gun uses are appropriate? But you should understand that responsible gun owners like those of us who argue with you here can own and carry guns without much risk of an accident. You report accidents in general, and often, the people involved are shown to have questionable records. In addition, the ratio of accidents to total gun owners in this country is tiny. But you're impervious to numbers, it seems.
MikeB violent crime is much more plentiful than you understand. The annual violent crime rate in Memphis, Tennessee for example is about 1000 per 100,000 citizens -- or one in 100 people. That means a citizen has a one in 10 chance of being the victim of a violent crime over the course of 10 years. That is staggering. And that violent crime rate dwarfs any "stupid" actions on the part of armed citizens.
Now maybe that doesn't rattle you. Personally, it really bothers me that I have a one in 10 chance of being raped, beaten, killed, or robbed if I live in Memphis. Given those numbers, it is utterly foolish in my eyes not to be armed 24/7.
State Sen. Tim Solobay, D-46, Canonsburg, became the target of four young men in September 2010 while he walked in downtown Harrisburg at about 11:30 p.m. Solobay, who has a concealed carry permit but was not armed at the time, was jostled and confronted by the teens, who demanded money.
Two of the teens ran off when Solobay pushed them, but one pulled a gun as Solobay got into his car. Solobay, a fire chief and former constable, hit the siren in his car and the gunman ran away.
The first man to go on trial in that case was acquitted, and the other is scheduled to go to trial soon. "I carry (a gun) all the time now," Solobay said. "It's very unusual if it's not on me."
Solobay said legislators are walking in pairs or groups, and some female colleagues are taking shooting lessons so they are ready to use a weapon.
"If you have it," Solobay said, "you'd better be ready to use."
Me, I don't need no steenkeen gunz! I just arm the claymores and make sure that the trapdoor "Welcome" mat, over the punji stakes-- slimed with human excrement--is set on it's hair trigger then I barricade myself in my Kevlar reinforced bedroom and turn the wolverines loose to patrol the house while their grizzly counerparts do the same thing outside.
ReplyDeleteWhat? I'm paranoic?
Hey smelly hippie,
Deletetake your meds and let granny at the old folks home back on the computer.....
We know all know that you are a example of a ball-sack for a cranium, go back to playing with your fiddly-bits....
Mikeb, you don't watch TV much, do you. That's typical of any commercial for anything. Create an emotional need, then offer a product that will answer it. But you should be celebrating this ad. It sells safe storage equipment.
ReplyDeleteDemocommie, you're not paranoic. You're stupid.
Mike- Can't speak for anyone else, but personally, my biggest fear is actually having to use my gun in self defense. Not all gun owners want the opportunity to take a life.
ReplyDeleteGood for you, J.O.B. Have you considered getting rid of the guns?
DeleteMike- No I have not considered getting rid of my guns. I like having them for all sorts of different purposes. Especially target shooting. But, taking a Human life is not one of the purposes. It is definitely one thing I hope I am never forced into..................
DeleteI hope the same thing, Mikeb, both for myself and for every gun owner with regard to having to shoot another human being. I'm not out there seeking for targets. I just refuse to be a quiet victim.
DeleteWaiting for your next sockpuppet, Ramdove.
ReplyDeleteOH,,,,,,,,,,,,I would be happy to take a psych test though.....
ReplyDeleteWhile MikeB's hypothetical scenario is possible (three or four commando criminals busting into your home in the middle of the night), fortunately it doesn't happen very often. What is typical is one or two criminals trying to sneak in in the middle of the night. And it actually happens.
ReplyDeleteOnce a home invader breaches a door or window, the invader could easily enter the homeowner's bedroom within 30 seconds. There is no way that a homeowner could arouse from sleep, pick up a telephone, dial 911, wait for a dispatcher to answer, and then communicate the situation with the 911 dispatcher that fast. And it would take several minutes for any law enforcement officers to arrive after that. Then it would still more time for multiple units to arrive, get into position, and then actually enter and start clearing the home.
Like it or not, if you awaken to the sounds of a home invader in your home, you have just a few seconds to get ready to defend yourself. The handgun safe that is the subject of this article looks like a good solution. It enables quick access and yet it would keep a handgun out of the hands of any children or visitors in the home. What's not to like?
Exactly what happened to the mother in Oklahoma. The police took, what, thirty minutes or so to arrive?
DeleteAgreed, what's not to like.
Deletehttp://news.yahoo.com/police-dna-thumbprint-vegas-home-slayings-181954252.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CXwIZ9P_BEArpbQtDMD
ReplyDeleteThis is a prime example where I think the death penalty is appropriate. The criminal rapes a 38 year old woman and her 10 year old daughter and then kills them with a hammer. Then he beats the father almost to death with the hammer -- and the father will probably not ever recover fully. The criminal's DNA is on the mother. There is no doubt the criminal did it. There is no doubt this was especially cruel and heinous.
DeleteI do not want one cent of my tax dollars going to provide food and shelter for the monster that did this. That takes away money that we could use to help people who really need it ... like children whose parents died at the hands of a criminal monster.
http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012120429734
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ksla.com/story/17906792/vivian-homeowner-airlifted-to-lsu-after-home-invasion
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wdef.com/news/state/story/3-get-prison-terms-for-home-invasion-slaying/D4DjRILg7kSoe7fKBe-L7A.cspx?rss=3458
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sunherald.com/2012/04/09/3874051/man-arrested-in-home-invasion.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nwfdailynews.com/articles/invasion-48983-three-arrested.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-23/man-arrested-over-violent-home-invasion/2480830
ReplyDeletehttp://www.news-press.com/article/20120417/CRIME/120417010/Englewood-man-arrested-home-invasion-robbery
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/apr/22/3-ventura-county-men-arrested-in-home-invasion/?partner=yahoo_feeds
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wickedlocal.com/wilmington/news/x1364629354/Wilmington-men-plead-guilty-in-home-invasion-case#axzz1tZQn7yKA
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2012/04/19/man-arrested-for-invading-67-year-old-womans-home-charged-with-three-felonies/
ReplyDeleteThey're not all recent events plus they're not all US stories. Other than that I get your point. You're saying that home invasions do happen and that gun ownership is useful in some cases.
ReplyDeleteAm I right?
Now, tell us how that argument hold up when you use your own argument to us against it? How likely is something like that to happen to YOU? If you eliminate the incidents in other countries and those that happened years ago, how do they compare to the "accidents" and the mis-use of guns that took place yesterday?
Finally, tell us how many times you yourself have had to use a gun to save the day.
Mikeb, you posted an article about a gun accident in New Zealand, but only American defensive gun uses are appropriate? But you should understand that responsible gun owners like those of us who argue with you here can own and carry guns without much risk of an accident. You report accidents in general, and often, the people involved are shown to have questionable records. In addition, the ratio of accidents to total gun owners in this country is tiny. But you're impervious to numbers, it seems.
DeleteFinally, tell us how many times you yourself have had to use a gun to save the day.
DeleteRight after you tell us what got you disqualified from gun ownership.......
MikeB violent crime is much more plentiful than you understand. The annual violent crime rate in Memphis, Tennessee for example is about 1000 per 100,000 citizens -- or one in 100 people. That means a citizen has a one in 10 chance of being the victim of a violent crime over the course of 10 years. That is staggering. And that violent crime rate dwarfs any "stupid" actions on the part of armed citizens.
DeleteNow maybe that doesn't rattle you. Personally, it really bothers me that I have a one in 10 chance of being raped, beaten, killed, or robbed if I live in Memphis. Given those numbers, it is utterly foolish in my eyes not to be armed 24/7.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/17964670/prosecutor-files-charges-in-deadly-home-invasion
ReplyDeleteAwwww, come on Mikey tell us how you became ineligible to own firearms in the US because of your criminal past, is that why you moved to ITALY
http://www.timesonline.com/news/local_news/legislators-taking-precautions-after-gibbons-robbed/article_b1bd6405-b16f-536c-848f-da6fefffa1b3.html
ReplyDeleteSolobay's perspective
State Sen. Tim Solobay, D-46, Canonsburg, became the target of four young men in September 2010 while he walked in downtown Harrisburg at about 11:30 p.m. Solobay, who has a concealed carry permit but was not armed at the time, was jostled and confronted by the teens, who demanded money.
Two of the teens ran off when Solobay pushed them, but one pulled a gun as Solobay got into his car. Solobay, a fire chief and former constable, hit the siren in his car and the gunman ran away.
The first man to go on trial in that case was acquitted, and the other is scheduled to go to trial soon. "I carry (a gun) all the time now," Solobay said. "It's very unusual if it's not on me."
Solobay said legislators are walking in pairs or groups, and some female colleagues are taking shooting lessons so they are ready to use a weapon.
"If you have it," Solobay said, "you'd better be ready to use."
You know, it's a damn shame he didn't have a gun that day. Hi could have killed one or two of those punks instead of just scaring them off.
DeleteDon't you see how that story argues against carrying a gun? Do you have that little respect for life?