Friday, June 15, 2012

Body of Trauma Surgeon Who Shot Nurse Found

I heard it reported but have not had a chance to verify that the gun he used was unregistered.  Gee--- wonder where he got it?  Private sale, gun show?

As I speculated, this was one of the hundreds of deaths we have in this country from murder suicides every year ---- avoidable deaths, if we had better gun regulation.

People who harass others, in ANY way, including internet and social media harassment should lose all of their rights to firearms.

If it is true that this man held a woman captive at knife point for a day and a half, and he wasn't put in jail, it is especially terrible, as it should have been clear he was dangerous from that incident.  Why wasn't there an enforced criminal restraining order against this guy -- and why after doing something like that did he still have Hospital privileges?

from the HuffPo:
Body Found Near Dr. Timothy Jorden's Buffalo Home Days After Jacqueline Wisniewski's Murder, Police Say

BUFFALO, N.Y. — A body found in thick brush Friday morning is believed to be that of a special forces soldier-turned-trauma surgeon who was the subject of a nationwide manhunt after the killing of his ex-girlfriend at a hospital, police said.
Police had been searching for 49-year-old Dr. Timothy Jorden since Wednesday morning, when 33-year-old Jacqueline Wisniewski was found shot to death in a stairwell at the Erie County Medical Center.
The body was found Friday not far from Jorden's suburban home near Lake Erie.
Dennis Richards, Buffalo Police Department chief of detectives, said the man apparently died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. An autopsy is being conducted.
SWAT teams had spent hours Wednesday searching the home without success.
"It's terrible," said Tom Wrzosek, a neighbor. "It's a tragic situation. Nobody wins in a situation like this."
Wrzosek had told police he heard a single gunshot from the steep, thick terrain behind Jorden's house on Wednesday morning, about 90 minutes after Wisniewski was gunned down at the hospital where she and Jorden worked.
Some of her friends told local media outlets that Jorden stalked her after she ended the relationship. One of her friends told WIVB-TV that Wisniewski told her the doctor had put a GPS tracking device in her car and once held her captive in her home for a day and a half, wielding a knife.
Jorden earned a medical degree from the University at Buffalo and trained at the Madigan Army Medical Center in Tacoma, Wash. He received his certification from the American Board of Surgery in 2004.
The Buffalo News reported that Jorden joined the National Guard in high school, went into the Army after graduation and served with the Army's special forces, first as a weapons expert, then as a medic. In those roles, he served in the Caribbean, Japan and Korea.
He was honored by various local organizations over the years for his teaching skills and involvement in the Buffalo community.
Jorden's colleagues told local media outlets that he had been acting strangely in recent months and lost as much as 75 pounds from his 6-foot-2, 250-pound frame.


  1. "I heard it reported but have not had a chance to verify that the gun he used was unregistered. Gee--- wonder where he got it? Private sale, gun show?"

    Not legally then. NY already has a ban on private sales without registration and no supposed "gunshow loophole" and we all know such schemes stop criminal actions.

    More gun control FAIL.

    1. Not true FWM - we don't know that he got the gun inside the boundaries of New York.

      Lots of people travel, and a large number of the guns used to commit crimes in New York are from outside of New York.

    2. Again. If he did so, then he got the gun illegally.

    3. OK, then.

      It's obvious that the deterrence model isn't working as well as the status quo.

      How would you have prevented him from acquiring the gun in the first place?

    4. P.S. I fished your response out of spam, FWM.

      Consider yourself honoured.

    5. FWM, we don'tt know that he obtained it illegally. He could have legally purchased, from a private party. I'm sure there will be some follow up announcements forthcoming. You are trying to hard to make unsupported assumptions FWM.

    6. Dog gone- we know it is illegal because there is a federal law that says so. All out of state sales have to be conducted through an FFL in the buying party’s state. Now you know.

    7. So, do you know that this was a firearm that was not bought in another state while this man was a legal resident in that state, through a private sale?

      We don't know how long he owned this firearm. We don't know when or where or how he bought it. Therefore it is speculation to assume it was purchased illegally, but if it was, it is entirely too easy to do that in too many places, as the videos on purchases at gun shows and on line transactions have demonstrated.

    8. FWM, that would make him one of the hidden criminals disguised as a lawful gun owner. He's still one of yours.

  2. "Not legally then. NY already has a ban on private sales without registration and no supposed "gunshow loophole" and we all know such schemes stop criminal actions."

    NY has those things. VT and PA do not. There are thousands, if not millions of people travelling from one of those states into and out of NY on a annaual basis. Your assertion is bullshit--I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, btw.

    Drunk driving, arson, theft, assault and murder are ALL not only illegal but generally result in serious repercussions for those caught, tried and convicted for their commission. Boy, talk about your FAIL. We should simply give every moron a gun and remove the rule of law.